Talk:Beta Ray Bill

Moral atheism/existentialism/absurdism
I find it odd that Beta Ray Bill's fairly unique belief system for a comic book character isn't in this article but a bunch of details about dudes he beat up or movies he almost but didn't appear in are. Perhaps someone more knowledgable than I am on this subject could address that when they make another pass. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.144.222.94 (talk) 19:29, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Human Host?
The last sentence of this article is mysterious. Someone should explain exactly what it means for Bill to have a human host. (Mumblingmynah (talk &bull; contribs))


 * It's actually outright wrong. It's an Iraq War (2004) vet, not a Vietnam vet. And basically it means exactly the same for him as Thor's Don Blake and Jake Olsen IDs.


 * And several of your simplifications introduced inaccuracies - e.g. Galactus wasn't "in disguise", every race sees him differently, and it's just humans who see him as a big guy in blue & purple armour. - SoM 01:42, 21 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Point taken: "in disguise" is inaccurate. But I was only trying to reduce an overly complex description to the essentials. Please keep my edits in mind when you go over it again.--Mumblingmynah 02:30, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

My understanding was that the human host had died before Beta Ray Bill took his place. That is, Beta Ray Bill is the personality regardless of the form he takes which is different than the Thor/Donald Blake situation. User:Lochdale
 * It's all tied to the ideas presented in the Thor: Disassembled "Ragnarok" story. Life's purpose is to die, so that more life can be created. As Bill, in his "old" body, dies, so does Simon, the war veteran. The robed entity transfers Bill's consciousness into Simon's body. Death leads to new life, but whether the real Simon still exists within his body is a matter that's not covered in this story. CNash 22:27, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Powers & Abilities

 * I maintain my position in keeping that information regarding Beta Ray Bill's powers & abilities present, so as to present to people the information without them having to refer to Thor. As a major character and a powerhouse of Marvel Comics in his own right,I place that info there to allow people to understand how powerful he is in comparison to Thor.

.--manthor


 * As of 12/10/2007, I updated the powers & abilities yet again, this time with solid citations, unless the person who makes the edits can please give me a convincing argument as to why such mentions should not be made.I am simply consolidating information at a single source, so that readers perusing this article have a better understanding of this character,and his place in comparison to the character of Thor.

.--manthor

Comma overuse?
I read over the Ragnarok section and noticed that there seem to be an overly abundant use of commas, some not necessarily needed. I could be mistaken but I think it might bear some checking by someone more informed with the guidelines of their use in accordance to grammatical style. 4.225.18.145 08:01, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

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Mjolnir (comics)
and that he had never dreamed that any other would be worthy enough to pick up the hammer, leaving a terrible dilemma.

This contradicts the other article which says a few other have previously lifted the hammer (Gnevin 12:03, 7 February 2007 (UTC))

C-Class rated for Comics Project
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Planet Hulk
Okay, I've logged in and made an account. I work for Blockbuster and was able to get the film "Planet Hulk" way before the release date. Beta Ray Bill does appear in the movie and has an important role to the film itself. Now, Planet Hulk doesn't come out until 02/02/2010, however it should be noted that Beta Ray Bill is in the movie whether it is out or not. If you need more details, I will be more than happy to talk about them.

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"appearance" in Thor: Ragnarok
User:Dingle mcdoogers really, really wants to include that Beta Ray Bill's face is on a stone structure in Thor: Ragnarok. He has been reverted by several users, including User:Favre1fan93, three unique IPs, and me. His edit summaries accuses us of vandalism. When asked to discuss it, he indicated a complete lack of interest. Since he's relatively new (20 edits to 2 pages since August), I thought I'd get it going for him.

Non-appearances have been discussed before, including here, here, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics/Archive 47, and here. General consensus is not to include them in articles. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:19, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Bill's head is clearly seen on the side of The Grandmaster's tower, alongside Grandmaster's previous champions, in Thor: Ragnarok. Beowulf2099 (talk) 06:32, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

The superfluous use of quotation marks and a callous, gatekeeping sense of superiority detract from any kind of point you tried to make here. Beowulf2099 (talk) 06:34, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

To disregard this appearance (sans quotes) is to disregard all appearances made via Easter Eggs in any context. Beowulf2099 (talk) 06:36, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually, we do disregard all appearances via Easter Eggs. That's been longstanding practice, and it's why we don't talk about Dr Octopus' arms in Amazing Spider-Man 2, or Gambit's name appearing on a computer in X-Men United. Easter Egg appearances are trivia and detract from aspects of the character's history that are really notable. You can read prior discussion on the topic at one, two three, and four. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:39, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Stormbreaker in Infinity War
Stormbreaker's appearance in Infinity War should not be included in this article. It's an accessory for the character, and consensus has been repeatedly established that this type of trivia is an inappropriate addition. See here, here, here, and here. Argento Surfer (talk) 15:40, 4 October 2018 (UTC)