Talk:Bethesda system

Further work required
Just created this to link the HSIL & LSIL pages appropriately. It needs more info in the history & reasoning behind the system. The LSIL & HSIL pages should also be updated with more pathology info, pictes etc, rather than duplicating them here.... Alternative method would be to redirect hsil & lsil here and have them as subsections! Mattopaedia (talk) 02:47, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Seem to be getting a lot of little articles in this topic. I think the TBS and LSIL and HSIL information could as well be developed as part of the Pap smear page for a while - until they get big enough to merit splitting.  Not that there isn't potentially enough material on the topics, and if these expand rapidly fine.  But if they just sit here being small for a while, we should look at combining some of them. Zodon (talk) 10:39, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Merger proposal
All's been quiet for a month or so since I last fiddled about with TBS, HSIL & LSIL. I was really hoping someone else (read:some keen medical student!) would take the initiative and start the merge ball rolling while I work and prepare lectures for medical students. Oh well...
 * If there's no issues after 2/52 (that'll be 17/02/09) then lets make it happen! Mattopaedia (talk) 05:58, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Please merge those articles here. Axl  ¤  [Talk]  10:06, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Speaking as a medical biller there is value to keeping these separate. A medical biller would not necessarily know to look on the pap smear page for this topic if it got subsumed there. This is a diagnosis and the pap smear is a test that is used to help detect multiple diagnoses. HSIL and Pap Smear are not synonyms so deserve separate pages. 72.166.189.251 (talk) 18:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * If they were merged, the article titles would redirect to the merged page. One wouldn't have to know to look there.  If one searched for HSIL, etc. it would take you to the article, just as it does now.  So the question is not whether to remove the names HSIL, etc., but whether to combine the coverage of these related diagnoses in a combined article.  Combining them would reduce need to duplicate background, and make maintenance easier (fewer articles to watch/update).  If/when the articles grow large enough that it needs splitting, it could again be divided.  Zodon (talk) 05:38, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks Zodon, and at this stage I'm only looking at merging the diagnostic classifications under the Bethesda System (LSIL & HSIL) into the bethesda system article. (I'm not sure that AGUS is a TBS classification or not, but I'm leaning toward not without actually looking it up).  At some later stage I (or somebody) should look at Pap smear, CIN etc and tidy the whole mess up; this is just where I decided to start.  But again, the redirect links would remain. Mattopaedia (talk) 06:42, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


 * By the way, I found the article on AGUS, which should also be merged, so added merge tags, etc. to it. Zodon (talk) 05:42, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Merger done
HSIL and LSIL articles have been merged into subsections of this article. There was little of importance on their respective talk pages (Talk:HSIL, Talk:LSIL), so I haven't bothered transcluding them to this talk page. Mattopaedia (talk) 06:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:03, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Bethesda System → Bethesda system –

Per WP:MOSCAPS ("Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization") and WP:TITLE, this is a generic, common term, not a propriety or commercial term, so the article title should be downcased.

In particular, lowercase will match the formatting of related article titles, such as Hickam's dictum and HEENT examination. Tony  (talk)  11:30, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
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Proposed merge
A merge has been proposed in 2010 between the content of dyskaryosis and this article. I feel it is logical for these two to be merged. Opinions? LT90001 (talk) 12:00, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
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