Talk:Betsy DeVos

Philanthropy/lobbying etc.
Why is it called the former when clearly it's the latter? Only thing they seem to be doing is using their money to buy what they're interested in... since when is that philanthropy? A possibly neutral term could be merely donating, but funding churches that hope for a theocracy isn't quite "promoting the welfare of others"... 92.7.58.211 (talk) 06:02, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Philanthropy is a vague concept with a lot of nuances. You might think that certain things don't promote the welfare of others, but other people might disagree.  Kerdooskis talk 17:02, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
 * While much of her spending would be considered lobbying, and should not be considered philanthropy any more than political contributions do, the DeVos foundation does, according to the article, give to "hospitals, health research, arts organizations, Christian schools"... all of which would serve under common defintions of philanthropy. And while I share the general concern that every rich person who ever gave a nickel to beggar has folks wanting to identify them as a WP:PHILANTHROPIST in the lede, in the case of the DeVoses, there seems to be sufficient coverage there to use it. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 17:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC)