Talk:Betty Williams (Coronation Street)

Notability
That she has been a high profile charcter in one of the most widely-viewed soaps for 38 years is surely sufficient evidence of notability. Ground Zero | t 22:40, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Merger
As this character wasn't major when she had more onscreen time, and is currently seen little, I feel it should be merged with the reccuring and minor Corrie characters article.This is Drew (talk) 11:44, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Hm, i do see your point that she is - well - these days shes minor - and she is certainly recurring but she was before the 2000s a regular character. Although the article is neither very notable so I mostly agree. 86.143.121.28 17:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I dont agree with this merge. Next year, the character is going to have been on-screen for 40 years! There is a lot that can be done to improve this page.  GunGagdin Moan 13:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the merge, sorry Gungadin. Article has to be merged to the List until it establishes notability by third party sources and given appropriate references. This ia what WP:FICTION writes. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * It wasnt merged into an appropriate place. She is not a minor character and she isnt recurring as she's been a regular for nearly 40 years, which is one of the longest running UK soap opera characters of all time. If an appropriate place to merge is formed then so be it; however, I would say that all but about 10 Coronation Street character pages meet your criteria for merging at present. Potential needs to be taken into account with some of these pages.  GunGagdin Moan 23:46, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree - I'd say that it's absolute nonsense to suggest that a household name of a character like Betty isn't notable. Common sense dictates that the article needs improving, not merging away into a list when there are dozens of articles for characters that have been around for nearly four decades less that no-one raises an eyebrow to. Really now. Even outside of Coronation Street, how many fictional characters have ever had a line of real-life food products launched in their honour?  Frickative  00:08, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Totally agree with the above. Betty's Hotpots are very well known in the UK. A character that has appeared for 40 years - for many of those as a regular - is clearly notable.--UpDown (talk) 10:36, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Loving how you've improved this already, Frickative.  GunGagdin Moan 12:48, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Picture in infobox
uploaded a different picture, here.

I have reverted to the older one, because a) I think that it is a much clearer picture, and b) the other is only slightly newer.

If you disagree, please discuss it below. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  07:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


 * P.S. Sorry, but the 'newer' version had to be removed, as it was a non-free image not in use.  Chzz  ►  07:31, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

The Betty Driver Story
On ITV on Tues 1 Feb at 8pm. Should be some good stuff for the article, and there are features in a lot of this week's TV magazines as well. If anyone regularly buys the TV Times (I think that was the one, might have been TV Guide!) there's a double page spread with an interview that might yield some useful quotes. Frickative 19:29, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll certainly keep an eye out and see if it's in the issue on sale now. RAIN*the*ONE  BAM 20:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I looked at the Radio Times, they have her saying about three lines... not really any use, but TV Times did have a full interview so I brought it. =) RAIN*the*ONE  BAM 22:53, 26 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Excellent! I'm not sure whether or not this article could ever be a viable FA candidate, but it certainly can't hurt to take advantage of the increased publicity the documentary is stirring up :) Frickative  14:29, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

interview here  GunGagdin Moan 14:57, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Jaci Stephen comments on the hotpot -  RAIN*the*ONE  BAM 21:07, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Last appearance
Not being a viewer I don't know the answer, but this article is very unclear on the character's last appearance in the show. I would assume she was written out temporarily for some reason in May, which has now become permanent due to Driver's death. Was this for health reasons? Did a storyline cover it or did she just vanish? This needs to be covered in the article, as it is very notable by its absence currently. U-Mos (talk) 19:22, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * As far as I'm aware she wasn't even written out temporarily, the actress has died and the character is being killed off because the actress has died. This leaves us with a discussion point as technically, until Betty dies this year, her character is still officially there, even if never present onscreen. Obviously the last appearance refers to the character's last appearance, but does the duration end with the character's last appearance, or when the character officially left the street? If it's the former then Betty's duration ended in 2011, if it's the latter then it ended in 2012, so a consensus needs to be reached (if one hasn't already been reached elsewhere). Burbridge92 (talk) 23:21, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Her duration ends when she last appeared, which according to the article was May last year. This means that prior to the actress' death the character was absent for five months (and a bit longer in terms of filming dates), a long time by any standards. Even if her last episode was just an ordinary appearance, there are still things that need to be covered, ie. What her last appearance was, if there has been any explanation for her absence thereafter (which will have been almost a year by the time of her screen funeral), if she has continued to be mentioned on-screen. And if known, whether her role was more part-time in later years, and why she did not appear for so long before her death. Currently there is no mention of any storylines past February 2010, over a year prior to her last appearance. U-Mos (talk) 17:18, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm confused about something else. Her last appearance was in May, but her duration says until 2012, and the list of characters says she's due to depart. Does this mean she will appear on screen again? I highly doubt this, therefore she cannot be a departing character, right? – anemone projectors – 14:19, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I know. I'm annoyed about this. How they keep saying she's leaving. She's not. The actress passed away. So therefore, she's left. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boushenheiser (talk • contribs) 20:53, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

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Aftermath of Cyril's death
"[In 1974] the truth about her illegitimate son is revealed, and when the community discovers this, Betty finds it difficult to face them.[9] She busies herself by taking in lodgers, and acquiring a ginger cat named Marmaduke for extra companionship"

Given that (as the infobox states and the narrative of the article confirms) Betty was working throughout this period behind the bar at the Rovers, to say she "finds it difficult to face [the community]" is spectacularly unconvincing; nor would she have any need to "busy" herself. The only part of any of this material to be supported by the citation given is the revelation about her son. I am removing everything between the word "revealed" and the acquisition of Marmalade. Harfarhs (talk) 00:51, 11 July 2021 (UTC)