Talk:BevMo!/Archives/2012

progress
work in progress! --Nor*cal skier 10:34, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

out of state id
where the hell did this rule come from? i used my alberta operator's license and/or canadian passport to verify my age at bevmo's in late 2007 without any incident whatsoever.Phobal (talk) 23:50, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Need to be Age 21 or with a guardian
Interesting, I had never heard about this --L33tmaster (talk) 05:15, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

same here. ive been in bevmo as a high school student (was 17 at the time) and bought some of the more interesting sodas. didnt get carded, and was unaccompanied. i think this fact needs to be checked or removed (maybe only in certain areas/states?)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.211.213.14 (talk) 08:15, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:07, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

BevMo! → Beverages & More — "Beverages & More" is the full, and most recognizable, name for this topic and therefore the appropriate name per WP:TITLE. "BevMo" is an abbreviation only appropriate within a context of established familiarity, e.g. the outside source cited only uses "BevMo" after properly introducing the company as "Beverages & More". Additionally, the exclamation point should be dropped per MOS:TM. ENeville (talk) 02:30, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Survey

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 * Oppose. I see this company's name in the same light as FedEx—a branding change by the original company. "Federal Express", the first branding of FDX Corporation, changed to FedEx in response to the popularity of the nickname, and because the shortened version was unique and easily trademarked. Same with Beverages & More; they have completely reoriented themselves as BevMo! (yes, with the exclamation point) in their given contact information taken from their website:
 * Corporate mailing address: BevMo!
 * 1470 Enea Circle, Suite 1600
 * Concord, CA 94520
 * The use of an exclamation point in a Wikipedia article title has been granted Yahoo!, so I see no need to trot out MOS:TM which doesn't contain a rule against the usage. BevMo!'s exclamation point is not casual, it is a formal branding decision.
 * The company's web address is www.bevmo.com, without the exclamation point, only because no exclamation point is allowed in web addresses. Yahoo! doesn't have one at www.yahoo.com, and if they can't arrange it, nobody can. ;^)  Binksternet (talk) 16:00, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:
 * The applicability of MOS:TM, as referenced in its introduction, is of drawing undue attention to some subjects rather than others, and that concern remains with regard to use of a terminal exclamation point in this case, the Yahoo! case notwithstanding. The discussion of the matter at Talk:Yahoo! hardly reflected consensus, and it's not reasonable to extrapolate presumptively about the global use of an exclamation point without addressing the issue globally within the context of MOS:TM guidelines. ENeville (talk) 17:12, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * A move is not required to reduce any perceived or projected attraction of undue attention brought by the exclamation point. Any editor wishing a work-around could simply pipe link BevMo! to make it appear as BevMo (with camel case) or Bevmo or whatever. The proposal to move this article does not pertain to the MOS:TM phrase "drawing undue attention to some subjects rather than others". It is clear from company materials including their website that the company's brand is now specifically BevMo!, not "Beverages & More". Binksternet (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.