Talk:Beverly Hills, 90210/Archive 1

Character links
None of the characters have articles of their own, yet each character name is now a link. I'm tempted to add some redirects to this page from the major character names, partly as a navigation aid, and partly to discourge people from writing stubs about them; and remove the links to characters. Any objections? Edward 07:23, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Dylan McKay
Dylan McKay - father dies in car bombing right in front of his eyes - wasn't that a fake to protect his father as witness? didn't he meet his father years later? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hhielscher (talk • contribs) 09:46, 18 October 2004 (UTC)

Yes he did, its been fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.217.48.44 (talk • contribs) 05:40, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Title
I wonder if the title of this page shouldn't be Beverly Hills, 90210, including the comma. Fox seems to be somewhat inconsistent about how they spell it, but checking out their 90210 site, it has the comma more often than not, and that's also how the IMDb spells it. -- Arteitle 05:06, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)


 * I've moved it for these reasons, and also more importantly the title credit in the Season 1 opening is Beverly Hills, 90210 in plain text, before they moved to the stylized circular logo for Season 2 and up. The comma is also included in the credit for "Beverly Hills, 90210" Theme in the ending credits of at least Seasons 1 and 2 (I don't have any more episodes on hand to check further than that). --Msgohan 00:37, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Should 90210 redirect here, or does that conflict with the year 90210? Edward 16:56, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)

When did it become a soap opera?
Although there is no argument that for most of its run, 90210 was a soap opera, I remember seeing the first few episodes and at least during that first year, it was anything but a soap opera. In fact it was more a family comedy-drama along the lines of Our House more than anything. I think this is worth noting, however I stopped watching after the first few months, and the next time I paid any attention to the show it was a couple of years later and it had become the soap opera. I think it should be noted when the format changed over. 23skidoo 03:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah it was changed. same thing with photography. the ended up hiring Charles and Darren i think finished his theme song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.80.117.24 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Subject Ordering
The obvious bias towards Brenda and Dylan notwithstanding, if the sections glorifying them should be included at all, it should be after the characters are introduced in the article. I'm moving it Zero X Marquis 22:09, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I've returned it to its previous place for the sake of presentable spacing, but cleaned up some of the obvious, blanket bias that was indeed there. -- 207.69.137.11 04:00, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

And I'm putting it back. There's no way in hell the charcters should be stated as departing before the characters are introduced.Zero X Marquis 22:14, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Spoilers?
I know it's somewhat tedious, but do you think that the cast list which lists dates of actors leaving the should would be considered spoilers? For some shows (say, if it was 24), it would be pretty spoiling as most of the people that leave the show do so due to being killed, but for this should it's not exactly telling anything plotwise that they leave the show - however, I know other people might consider it spoiling to know that someone is leaving at the end of the season they are watching or whatnot... Thoughts? TheHYPO 09:12, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

characters
If Donna's boyfriend Joe is listed as a character, then definitely Susan Keats and arguably Tracey Gaylian should be included as well. Susan was in almost every episode for an entire season, and Tracey was in the majority of episodes the following season. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.218.5 (talk • contribs) 01:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I never understood why Kelly was considered the "good" girl while Valerie the vixen of the show. Kelly was also selfish and egocentric and Valerie was the only one who expressed it straight-out, being a bitch but a sensitive and insecure person as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sthenel (talk • contribs) 17:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Transcripts?
Are there any transcripts available for the show?--Hhielscher 17:39, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

original pilot
what the hell does this mean? the pilot we saw was the actual pilot or is it the whole The Green Room thing again? I never knew it existed74.195.9.240 06:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

In the case of 90210, the original pilot had Lyman Ward playing Jim Walsh. When the show was picked up, Ward was let go, and his scenes were reshot, so the original pilot would be the one with Lyman Ward as Jim.

...on the Second Season DVD release as well as some episodes edited from their original broadcast versions
I know that some music has been replaced but has anyone more information about that edits that differ from the broadcast version? --213.212.1.52 17:35, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'll try guessing... didn't they maybe show a part of the R.E.M. concert, that some of the gang went to and wasn't it cut out together with the R.E.M. music? They will probobaly have to make another alternation due to this (they really should have done a deal with this group). In season 3 Brenda plays "Losing My Religion" constantly and the song is mentioned by name a couple of times. This will have to be cut out, as the song was replaced in season 2, so probobly will again be replased with the new and chessy Brenda & Dylan's song in 3. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.238.71.246 (talk) 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Series 3
What's with the release date for series 3? It states a much earlier release of the DVD in Europe than in the USA (though it was the other way around with seasons 1 and 2). And while Amazon.com let's you pre-order the DVD, amazon.co.uk has not even a page for it... and the region 2 release should be in a month?? That'a akward, where did the release date come from??


 * Although it is not uncommon for a series to be released first in Europe, there is currently no region 2 release date for season 3 and so the Nov 2007 was clearly put there by mistake.79.69.58.227 11:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Trivia/Misc
it seems the trivia section could be deleted or misc section could be renamed trivia. having the two seems strange to me, as the information could go in either section. The undertow 05:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Who the hell wrote "Brandon tries out for the Basketball team in the first season, named "Wildcats" which is also the name of Mary's Basketball team on 7th Heaven." I mean seriously what does this have to do with the show. I guess you could also write the Dylan Mckay and Bob Dylan both share a name, weird. TRIVIA! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.205.150.190 (talk) 19:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I deleted it. That is hands down the most irrevelant piece of "trivia" I've ever seen on Wikipedia. Wildcats is also the nickname of about 5,000 other high school teams. I won't be too harsh in case a kid wrote that...I'd hope it wasn't the work of anyone over 14. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.202.22 (talk) 01:59, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Tori Spelling claims
One of the show's co-stars has published an autobiography in which she discusses behind-the-scenes relationships on the show. Should this be referenced here? 68.146.41.232 (talk) 15:01, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Brenda smoking
What episode does Brenda Walsh first appear in with a pack of Morley cigarettes? I am writing an article and need that information. From what I understand, it happens when she returns from Paris, but you do not have episode synopsis written yet for each episode. - LA @ 06:38, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

PS. You might want to add that to the Morley article.

New Beverly Hills, 90210 spin-off from The CW Television Network
Could the new Beverly Hills, 90210 spin-off from The CW Television Network be titled Beverly Hills, 90210: The Next Generation? AdamDeanHall (talk) 13:54, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it's best to hold off on that. The series was just announced yesterday. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bghosted (talk • contribs) 17:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Soundtrack
Why isn't included here?63.168.68.93 (talk) 05:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Categories
Why does this article have not categories? Egon Eagle (talk) 14:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I can see the categories when I edit but not when I'm reading the article, did I do something wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Egon Eagle (talk • contribs) 14:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Cast List
I edited the cast list in order of when they were introduced/became main characters on the show, but it was reverted. Is it possible someone will not change it if i do it again? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.197.190.40 (talk) 04:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Spin off? Merge same show articles?
Couple of things. Are the new Melrose and new 90210 really spin-offs? I don't think that is accurate. They are a "rebirth", "extention" or "continuations" of the original shows. I wouldn't consider them "spin offs". Maybe that is the "generic" term for it but doesn't seem right. Just curious is all. Also, why not merge both 90210's together and both Melrose's together in one article for each, separating the original and new series within the same article? Don't think it is necessary for separate articles for the same show. Just an idea/thought. Smile... Thank you! 69.129.170.102 (talk) 04:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The new shows are entirely different productions with different crews, which makes them spin-offs of the previously concluded productions. A similarity in naming does not change that. As for merging, I don't feel that it should be done. -- 4.249.84.221 (talk) 08:02, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Filming locations
I dunno how useful these articles are for the show — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwanyewest (talk • contribs) 19:07, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Does anyone have information on the relationship between Navid Shirazi and Pearlasia Gamboa?
I came across this Largest private residences in the Beverly Hills area, 1156 Shadow Hill, "the home of Navid Shirazi, and can be seen in the season one episode The Games People Play, when Adrianna goes over to his house for dinner." I was researching for International crimes of Beverly Hills, as Navid Shirazi's home was in reality the residence of Pearlasia Gamboa, international fraudster still in operation after 20 years, and president of the micronation of Melchizedek. Does anyone have information on the relationship between Shirazi and Gamboa? PPdd (talk) 14:04, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Inspired by Degrassi?
http://degrassitalks.degrassi.ca/drugs.htm

Just learned this today - but apparently they wanted to buy the original Degrassi, the people who created it said no. Details in above link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.217.113 (talk) 01:30, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Produced by Paul Robinson
Where is the reference to Paul Robinson producing? A full list of the producers at ([]) doesn't list a Paul Robinson, and the only Google Search results matching Paul Robinson and Beverly Hills, 90210 are the article here or a copy of the article on various websites. I've removed the mention of Paul Robinson from the article. If anyone can show evidence that the producer was Paul Robinson, I would gladly add the text back. Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 07:25, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Removed
I removed the statement that said the the show was going to be called Potomac 20854, with Star's actual high school, Winston Churchill High School in Potomac, Montgomery County, Maryland—a school with similar demographics to Beverly Hills High—as an inspiration. There are no sources for this. There is no way this show was ever going to be called Potomac 20854, I just watched Biography about this show and the show was pitched and written with L.A and California specifically in mind,there was no mention of Potomac at all.--98.87.55.207 (talk) 21:15, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Contest to be a cast member
I remember a commercial with Gabrielle Carteris about it, does anyone know who won it- and could put it in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.74.136.124 (talk) 12:36, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

International broadcast
Hi there, the International broadcast section is not consistent with WP:TVINTL, which prefers prose and English-speaking nations only. Without guidelines, these sections are magnets for unsourced additions, like this Argentinian user's addition of unsourced Argentinian broadcast information. Anyone have any arguments for keeping it? Otherwise, I might take a stab at converting the section to prose and reincorporating it into the main Broadcast section as we normally do. This would also mean cutting the non-English speaking nations. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:41, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Shannen Doherty
Much was made of the "drama" that Shannen Doherty brought to the set and that ultimately led to her getting fired. Why does this article mention nothing at all about this facet of the show? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 07:48, 11 January 2016 (UTC)