Talk:Bhaskar the Rascal

Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2015
I want to Add boxoffice collection. http://justfewseconds.com/2015/04/bhaskar-the-rascal-7th-day-collection-first-week-box-office-report/. this is the link. please approve.

Sarathh8 (talk) 18:01, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Declined: Please cite a reliable source for box office collection details. Malayala Sahityam (talk) 05:14, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Film revenue
This link from Filmibeat clearly states that film has turned out a blockbuster and has raked in a collection of 16 crores. The IB Times source gives the collection as 13.77 crore in 19 days and 16 crore seems a logical value too. First you provide a reason why this information should not be included or why this source should be considered unreliable. A reliable source does not mean that it should compulsorily be a print source or that it be in English. Filmibeat is the entertainment portal of a major Indian news website that is Oneindia.in. Malayala Sahityam (talk) 19:15, 26 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Filmibeats is not a box office auditing site. And from the articles tone, the 16 cr looks like their prediction. The fact. It makes it necessary to add additional supporting sources for the 16 cr claim other than Filmibeat. VagaboundWind (talk) 19:33, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

There is no box office auditing agency for Malayalam films. We usually do rely on news sources for box office details. Filmibeat does not make a prediction as you said but clearly states that the film has emerged a blockbuster with a gross collection of 16 crore and is still running in theatres. Malayala Sahityam (talk) 19:39, 26 May 2015 (UTC)


 * "Blockbuster", and similar phrasing, is of no encyclopedic value and in this case only serves to promote the film. This subject has come up a few times at the Indian Cinema Task Force and most who responded were averse to the inclusion of these meaningless terminologies, and I think if you were to ask WikiProject Film you'd receive an even more vocal opposition. If you want to say that the film grossed ₹N million, that's fine, because that is presumably a fact, or at worst an estimate. If you want to say that the film sold NN million tickets, that's fine, because again, that's somewhere in the realm of fact. However once we start using subjective adjectives like Blockbuster, Super-hit, Disaster, Failure, etc we're using opinions to tell the story, and we're only interested in opinions when relevant, for instance if we were talking about the critical response toward the film. We don't present opinions as though they were facts. An example: The US film Jupiter Ascending received primarily negative critical response. Rotten Tomatoes gave it a 25%. It would be academically irresponsible to say "The film was declared rotten." Even if true, "rotten" is subjective and has no encyclopedic value. Most western film articles avoid this commentary by describing the critical response according to the aggregator's numbers. Instead, we say: "On Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds a rating of 25%, based on 203 reviews, with an average rating of 4.2/10". Now there's some objective facts you can sink your teeth into! I will point out as well, that per WP:V, "Verifiability does not guarantee inclusion". Simply being able to source an opinion doesn't make the opinion a fact. See also Undue Weight. For these reasons I have removed the phrasing. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:28, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

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