Talk:Bhishma Ashtami

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, I know someone who is an honorary Tamil--does that mean I can call on your advice? Student here could do with a pointer or two about how to set up this article. Problem is, they got to it late and need to hurry up, and get it DYK-nominated. Do you have anything to offer? Any good articles for them to look at? We don't want to write the article for him, mind you: this is a student in a freshman comp class. , how are you with your Hindu festivals? Thanks gents... Dr Aaij (talk) 01:28, 27 April 2017 (UTC)


 * I am useless at Hindu festivals, among many other things. Sorry. - Sitush (talk) 01:40, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sitush, do you know anyone else? SpacemanSpiff hasn't been around in a week or more. Thanks, Dr Aaij (talk) 02:06, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ? - Sitush (talk) 02:10, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * A couple of style tips. Firstly, WP:MOSHEAD explains how we capitalise section headings, some of which will need amendment in this draft. WP:MOSDATE explains how we deal with dates - for this article, we would be using day-month-year rather than US style but we say "25 February", not "25th February". Minor things, I know, but every bit helps. - Sitush (talk) 02:19, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * , Sitush has forgotten more about Wikipedia than I will ever learn. Please listen to him. Dr Aaij (talk) 02:30, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Now that's a compliment! See below for my advice.  Joshua Jonathan   -  Let's talk!   05:56, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Here's what I do (I'll write down just how I respond; hope that helps):
 * What's "Bhishma Ashtami"? Bhishma Ashtami? Nope.
 * Google: "a Hindu festival dedicated to 'Bhishma' of the great Indian epic 'Mahabharata'." Okay... What more?
 * Still Google: Bhishma: "Shukla Ashtami marks the death anniversary of Bhishma Pitamah(Father), the day being known as Bhishma Ashtami."
 * Okay, Bhishma:
 * Only one source. What is this purce? Is it WP:RS?
 * "He did wait for about 58 nights for the winter solstice or first day of Uttarayana to give up his body on the arrow bed." - winter solstice? That's Indo-European; that's interesting. What has this story to do with the older Indo-European myhtology and festivals?
 * "Mahabharata states that he attained salvation after his death." - what kind of slavation? Moksha, I guess? Why after his death? That's a specific view on moksha. Sources?!?
 * "He was granted the Maatru Lok (which is considered even above vaikunth dhaam)." - what's "Maatru Lok"? What's "vaikunth dhaam"?
 * "Magha (month) Shukla Ashtami marks the death anniversary of Bhishma Pitamah(Father), the day being known as Bhishma Ashtami." - what's "Bhishma Pitamah(Father)"?!? Something like "Father Christmas"?
 * Etc. for this paragraph; it contains plenty to elaborate on, and explain, '''using WP:RS.


 * So, how do we get WP:RS? We can scroll further through the Google-results, but that porbably won't help much. So, we turn to Google Books. J. Gordon Melton (2011), Religious Celebrations: An Encyclopedia of Holidays, Festivals,.. That looks promising. Look it up, see how much you can read of it via Google, and use it. Wait, check: who's the publisher? So for the rest.
 * And of course, being student, if a book is good, but you can read a limited number of usefull pages, look it up in your library.
 * Last, we turn to Google Scholar. Ah, Melton again. That's a good start.
 * So, taht's a starter for sources. Now, when you start writing: keep concise and informative, ask yourself questions (why this, why that, what does that mean?), and keep your readers in mind, presuming they know nothing. Succes!  Joshua Jonathan   -  Let's talk!   05:56, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Ap1405/Bhishma Ashtami, Did You Know the semester is almost over? Right now this article is not very good. Dr Aaij (talk) 20:52, 29 April 2017 (UTC)