Talk:Bichon

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A picture where the dog isn't covered in a blanket would be nice!Smooth0707 (talk) 16:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Tone
Great companion dogs, is accurate, but has a positive spin. My grandmother had a bichon bitch. The bitch would literally follow people around all the time. Good thing bichons are small, if a lab did that one would get hit with a tail, and the lab would have to move in order for one to get by. She could not be left alone. Literally would howl until people came. That is why my grandmother couldn't leave her at her traile to go to a store. The bichon was so in need of constant attention that she howled for three contst hours, with a person up stairs. If is because of this that anyone whom claims this breed of bitch has any once of independence is completely wrong.

Comes across a bit like a fan site. Needs to be made more encyclopaedic Mrh30 (talk) 09:03, 21 August 2008 (UTC) i see nothing objectionable or distracting in the "tone" of this page. "a bit like" is a bit like a very feeble quibble, especially since the second editor can't really pin point the problem. is there anything *factually* wrong here? 67.142.161.22 (talk) 02:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I assume you are referring to the last section (The Modern Bichon)? I moved the tag there. I'll rewrite the section if that is the one in question. smooth0707  (talk) 13:51, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps this phrase: "this period of alleged "enlightenment"". which is subjective is part of the problem. Tenorcnj (talk) 18:05, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Blitzed. Content is retained, but tone completely neutralised. The stuff on "enlightment" was scathing, the other parts were gushing and the whole thing very unencylopedic. GM Pink Elephant (talk) 21:07, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Hair vs Fur
Can we remove the statement that these dogs have hair and not fur? Hair and fur are the same exact thing and dogs ALWAYS have fur. The texture of the coat does not change this fact and make it hair. By Wikipedia article definition fur is "the body hair of any non-human mammal" and I don't think that any of these dogs are human. -Wrenwolf 70.124.91.97 (talk) 23:53, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * They don't shed, hence the distinction. smooth0707  (talk) 15:09, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * All dogs shed. In fact all animal that have hair or fur shed. The ONLY distiction between hair human and fur is that hair is always from a human and fur always from a non-human. They may have less allergens and produce less dander and not shed as often but all dogs shed. Even humans shed as our hair follicles have dormant and active cycles, just as dogs' do. This is completely a false statement and needs to be taken out of the article. If you feel that they do have hair and not fur plese provide a solid scientific reference to prove the point but at this point I am removing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.124.91.97 (talk) 11:21, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

History of the bichon
With all due respect: I believe, the Bichon family has not much - if anything - to do with water spaniels or Barbets. There is allready a hint in the text for that: the Maltese is older than the Barbet - so how can he, the oldest bichon be a descendant? The Bolognese is also a race which is mentioned in the Rennaissance, before the Bichon Frisé arrived - in my opinion at the time yet another name for the Bolognese, much like the Bolonka Franzuska in Russia - the fci agrees as far as I know. The standard for Bichon Frisé was established in 1933 (!), before that only certain types of dogs were bred, and the Bichon Frisé of our times is a child of the french revolution. Before that, a "Bichon" was either a Maltese or a Bolognese. There is a lot of confusion though, especially when the history of the Frisé is concerned. But there can be no doubt about it, that the oldest race of Bichons is the Maltese, long before the barbet, water spaniel etc. was known. The Article concerning the Maltese is marvelous, by the way - I suggest to use the history part for the bichon family, too. I never read anything better! And if I may add: we should'nt mistake the history of such a fine and ancient race for races, which became popular in France much later - obviously, there is a mix-up with the poodle and his ancestors on hand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.153.115.106 (talk) 08:42, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

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