Talk:Big Bad Wolf (roller coaster)

Starter Coaster
I've removed the reference to the Big Bad Wolf being a 'great starter coaster'. It just doesn't fit with the rest of the article. Anyone with an issue should let me know. Thegov2k2 20:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to fit that in either, but it is a common locals perspective. People that take their kids to the park year after year will usually get them to ride this one first. It has the lowest height limit and seems to be less intimidating, probably because you can't easily see the entire ride. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.15.158.153 (talk) 14:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

The reason it's so many local kids first coaster is the 42" height restriction. The next lowest one is the Lochness Monster at 48". The remaining coasters are 52" and 54" 68.15.158.153 (talk) 15:03, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Death at Big Bad Wolf
A worker was killed working on the BBW tracks when he shouldn't have been there. Why no mention?


 * Please sign your posts in the future. However, there have been a number of incidents involving the Wolf.  I worked the Wolf in 1986 as Wolf Crew, and there was a great deal of discussion about how in 1984, the engineers had accidentally dispatched train 2 from the station while the track was set in Garage mode (they were in the process of adding train 3 to run in 3 train mode vice two train mode), instead of releasing train 3 from parking in the garage; the effect was that train 2 went down the brief descent, left the track, and crashed in the concrete retaining pit at the end of the station, severely damaging it.


 * Additonal issues: in the original configuration, there were no Trim breaks or absorbers on the trains, allowing them to swing laterally freely, without damping. The result was that in the final rise from the Rhine to the station, where the train makes a sharp S turn to line up with the station and bleed speed before hitting the outer brakes, the cars of the train could, if properly loaded, exceed 140 degree angles (partial inversion), which would cause the guide runners on the bottom of the car to hit the support poles, dislodging them.  Shock absorbers to suppress the lateral swing and hard swing limiters were added to keep swing below 110 degrees in 1985.  I believe the guide runners were ultimately removed from the cars many years later, as they were only really used on the two lifts and in the station to set the cars in a line and prohibit lateral swing.


 * The death you mention did not occur while the ride was "operating"; it occured during test and certification, before the season started, in 2007, IIRC.


 * As an aside, I don't know when they switched from the oral, live "safety spiel" to the canned response spiel they used from at late 1990s. However, the original spiel (as often delivered; ad libbing somewhat was officially forbidden, but unofficially encouraged) proceeded like this after the seating instructions: "Please keep you hands, arms, legs, head, and any other part of your body you are attached to inside the car at all times or you may lose it.  Now sit back, relax, and prepare to travel ... at the speed of fright!  Aaaaaaahhhoooooooooooo".  The "travel at the Speed of Fright" was the early tagline for the Big Bad Wolf, and the signature Wolf Howl was deriguer for the male Wolf Crew; most of the females tried it, as well.  Bill Ward (talk) 21:27, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Height of Drop
The description says 90 feet, but the photo caption says 80 feet. Which is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.207.9 (talk) 20:58, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I changed it to 80ft since that matches five other roller coaster sites I've checked. The park's web site says "The "Wolf" rambles through natural terrain and dense forest, suddenly dropping a sheer 99 feet to nearly skim the Rhine River below" but that may be some marketing fudging on the numbers. Maybe 99 feet from the top of the drop to the surface of the water? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.15.158.153 (talk) 23:30, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Make sure all changed are properly cited. -- T HE F OUNDERS I NTENT  PRAISE 14:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Confusing Wording
The line "At this point, the cars were below the track, making the dive even more convincing," is confusing. Why wouldn't the cars be below the track? I am going to remove this until a less confusing way of saying this is posted. 184.91.106.175 (talk) 21:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

An Update
I wanted to point out that where it still says the footers, etc. are all still in place and just the track is in storage. They have since taken out everything except (I believe) the station and queue lines. I know when I was there this past year (I'm a season's ticket holder for years) They have taken out all the cement supports that you could see and all the posts. There really wasn't much of it left that you could see. 70.160.149.89 (talk) 15:06, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * If you can find a source for this, feel free to edit the article and make the corrections yourself. Themeparkgc   Talk  22:09, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Removed vs Closed
SunLife2k1: The reason why many of these articles are changing to  status has to do with a previous discussion. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Amusement Parks/Archive 3, where it was decided that  should take the place of SBNO, which is considered jargon that has no place on Wikipedia. Only one source, RCDB.com, uses that phrase consistently. If you disagree or would like to discuss in more detail, I would highly recommend you take it to the WikiProject. Here's a link to the recent discussion there:
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Amusement Parks

Hope that helps. --GoneIn60 (talk) 01:48, 5 May 2017 (UTC)