Talk:Big Brother (Australian TV series) season 12

Voting History table
Should the top of the Voting History table use "Episode" or "Week x & Day x" as usual like other seasons. For my thought, the Weeks and Days are part of the main elements of Big Brother although the show was prerecorded, it's not a show like The Circle. So I added "Week x & Day x" blow the "Episode" row. But it was removed later by Helloman124 for no reason. I'm not going to start an edit-war which is against the rules, so what do you guys think about it. —— A675974811 (talk) 23:59 (UTC+8)
 * Since this season is unique due to the fact is has been entirely pre-recorded I would recommend not using the "Week" terminology here. Just label the columns "Episode 1, Episode 2, etc." until we get further along in the season to see how the editing is handling the show. Using Days for the Evicted rows is okay because the Episodes are using Days to tell viewers when a Housemate leaves the House. The first broadcast week matched up with the first week in the House because the production team was fitting 2 to 3 days worth of footage into 1 episode. Seven plans on airing this show across 7 broadcast weeks but early reports say the show filmed for 5 weeks which is going to lead to a discrepancy between the weeks in the House vs the number of broadcast weeks on Seven if true and this would confuse the average reader. The main reason the American and English Canadian adaptations still use Weeks in their Voting History tables is their adaptations are broadcasting in real time with live feeds. Excluding twists only 1 HouseGuest is evicted per week in those adaptations.   Alucard 16  ❯❯❯ chat?    05:10, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with only using the Episode headers in this season, mostly because nomination/eviction cycles are being entirely contained within an episode. If the cycles spanned even two episodes I would consider using at least a Day number header. Reader781 (talk) 07:39, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Sourcing for extended vote videos
If there is a text based reliable source for the extended vote could those please be included in the article along with the videos from 7Plus for the benefit for international readers since 7Plus is geo-locked to Australia. Text based sources can also be archived by the Wayback Machine in the event 7Plus deletes those videos.   Alucard 16  ❯❯❯ chat?    05:10, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I did quick check of both 7Plus and the 7News websites and I can not find any text articles recapping the eviction votes. I don't know where else to find a suitably reliable source for the voting info.Reader781 (talk) 07:39, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The only text source I can find is here but it still not a reliable source... —— A675974811 (talk) 23:48, 12 June 2020 (UTC+8)

Saved row
The saved row can be seen as WP:TRIVIA even when 3 Housemates are facing eviction. The justification to restore this row was "US & Canada don't do Saved section because there's normally 2 nominees - The Australian version has 3 nominees, hence a saved section is worth-wild here." However under that logic Big Brother 15 USA had a period where 3 HouseGuests faced eviction for half of the game and under that reasoning BB15 USA merits a Saved row. A Saved row really is only beneficial during the original format when viewers are deciding who is evicted, when 3 or more Housemates are facing eviction and the broadcaster is releasing the full voting breakdown (see the Nine-era seasons.) In this case where only 3 Housemates are facing eviction each episode and the Housemates are voting to evict it is easy to summarize in the Episodes table who got 3 votes to evict and who got 2 votes to evict in Episode 1 for example. The Saved row is really not needed for a Voting history table.   Alucard 16  ❯❯❯ chat?    05:10, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * My opinion is if we know who got eliminated, we know who didn't get eliminated, especially in this case where the Housemates are voting and there are no public voting percentages to be published. Sure you are then omitting the number of votes the non-eliminated Housemates received, but I don't think that's a big deal. WP:IINFO says that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information.Reader781 (talk) 07:39, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

The end of the table needs updating. At some point someone has decided to remove episodes 21-24 (which we know exist from the NZ broadcaster) from the end of the table and are going to have to be added in at some point, so may as well be done now.

Recent edit wars
It has become apparent to me that User:Helloman124 and User:Riggleby have been engaging in an edit war about the wording of the pairs nominations challenge. Can you please discuss your changes as per WP:BRD? --Reader781 (talk) 03:01, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Timeline
Could someone who understands this please add a timeline section? The comments above on this page say that the series was pre-recorded, but that is not in the present version of the article. Reading the article, I was confused by how a COVID-19 scare in March could have influenced a show in June, as I had assumed the show was near-real-time like previous series. I would like a timeline that includes the events in the article (house reveal, COVID halt etc), and perhaps add the recording dates to the episode table. Thank you. --Scott Davis Talk 09:56, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Voting percentages of final 3
Any reliable sources about their percentages? —— A675974811 (talk) 19:35, 5 August 2020 (UTC+8)
 * I certainly can't find any reliable sources for any percentages from the finale. I propose reverting it back to dual-runner-up and not mentioning percentages unless a reliable source can be found. Reader781 (talk) 03:18, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Ratings
Hi,

I noticed that the ratings were removed, can we get it back or is there a reason because there is no reason ratings should be removed 220.244.237.205 (talk) 04:45, 23 June 2022 (UTC)