Talk:Big Brother (Belgian TV series)

Updating Big Brother (Belgian TV series)
To make it more compatible with other Big Brother-pages on this wiki, the main Big Brother page of the Belgian Big Brother has been transformed to a series overview and history, debate and impact of the program in Flanders. The information about housemates and nominations are on the respective page of each season, which has been created. User:SmartGwen 08:53, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 18 March 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jack Frost (talk) 04:28, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

– Per WP:NCTV: "Each episode of an on-going show usually is self-contained with little connection to other episodes, other than title, format, hosts, and other on-air personalities". They do not qualify as a "Series television" because they don't "feature recurring settings or characters, or express a unifying narrative theme" as they are not scripted shows.
 * Big Brother (Belgian TV series) → Big Brother (Belgian TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Bulgarian TV series) → Big Brother (Bulgarian TV programme)
 * Big Brother All-Stars (Bulgarian TV series) → Big Brother All-Stars (Bulgarian TV programme)
 * List of Big Brother (Bulgarian TV series) contestants → List of Big Brother (Bulgarian TV programme) contestants
 * Big Brother (Quebec TV series) → Big Brother (Quebec TV program)
 * Big Brother (Croatian TV series) → Big Brother (Croatian TV programme)
 * Celebrity Big Brother (Croatian TV series) → Celebrity Big Brother (Croatian TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Czech TV series) → Big Brother (Czech TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Danish TV series) → Big Brother (Danish TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Hungarian TV series) → Big Brother (Hungarian TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Indonesian TV series) → Big Brother (Indonesian TV program)
 * Big Brother (Norwegian and Swedish TV series) → Big Brother (Norwegian and Swedish TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Norwegian TV series) → Big Brother (Norwegian TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Swedish TV series) → Big Brother (Swedish TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Romanian TV series) → Big Brother (Romanian TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Russian TV series) → Big Brother (Russian TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Slovak TV series) → Big Brother (Slovak TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Slovenian TV series) → Big Brother (Slovenian TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Swiss TV series) → Big Brother (Swiss TV programme)
 * Big Brother (South African TV series) → Big Brother (South African TV program)
 * Big Brother (Finnish TV series) → Big Brother (Finish TV programme)
 * Big Brother (French TV series) → Big Brother France
 * Loft Story (French TV series) → Loft Story (French TV programme)
 * Secret Story (French TV series) → Secret Story (French TV programme)
 * Big Brother (German TV series) → Big Brother (German TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Greek TV series) → Big Brother (Greek TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Israeli TV series) → Big Brother (Israeli TV program)
 * Big Brother (Dutch TV series) → Big Brother (Dutch TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Polish TV series) → Big Brother (Polish TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Serbian TV series) → Big Brother (Serbian TV programme)
 * Big Brother VIP (Portuguese TV series) → Big Brother VIP (Portuguese TV programme)
 * Big Brother (Portuguese TV series) → Big Brother (Portuguese TV programme)
 * Big Brother (British TV series) → Big Brother (British TV programme)
 * Big Brother (American TV series) → Big Brother (American TV program)
 * Celebrity Big Brother (British TV series) → Celebrity Big Brother (British TV programme)
 * List of Big Brother (British TV series) shows → List of Big Brother (British TV programme) shows
 * List of Big Brother (American TV series) episodes (2000–2009) → List of Big Brother (American TV program) episodes (2000–2009)
 * List of Big Brother (American TV series) episodes (2010–present) → List of Big Brother (American TV program) episodes (2010–present)
 * List of Celebrity Big Brother (American TV series) episodes → List of Celebrity Big Brother (American TV program) episodes
 * Lists of Big Brother (American TV series) episodes → Lists of Big Brother (American TV program) episodes
 * Bigg Boss (Malayalam TV series) → Bigg Boss (Malayalam TV program)
 * Bigg Boss (Tamil TV series) → Bigg Boss (Tamil TV program)
 * Bigg Boss (Hindi TV series) → Bigg Boss (Hindi TV program)
 * Bigg Boss (Telugu TV series) → Bigg Boss (Telugu TV program)
 * List of Bigg Boss (Hindi TV series) controversies → List of Bigg Boss (Hindi TV program) controversies
 * Big Brother All Stars (Belgian TV series) → Big Brother All Stars (Belgian TV programme)

If you wonder why they are at "series" is because of this despite NCTV already had this distinction mentioned.

Note: Big Brother (French TV series) → Big Brother France is because it is a disambiguation page and there is not a "Big Brother" series. Therefore "Big Brother France" is natural. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 22:02, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:AINTBROKE. -- Calidum  23:20, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It's actually broken because these kinds of titles create standardizations in the project, and regardless if they are correct or not, people start to imitate because X article has that style. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 01:41, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Article title should certainly match the type of programming it is. But shouldn't this be applied to every TV reality competition too? – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 23:22, 18 March 2021 (UTC) Oppose following points made by Netoholic. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 16:55, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose for Hindi, Malayam, Telugu, and Tamil series, because in Indian English, "programme" is the correct spelling aside from the computer program. 36.77.74.149 (talk) 00:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Adjusted. I couldn't find which style was used there. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 01:41, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Oppose as fundamental misunderstanding of WP:NCTV. Reality shows like Big Brother certainly are not "self-contained with little connection to other episodes" - the cast is generally consistent from episode to episode and there is a narrative order of presentation. WP:NCTV applies as "made of episodes which may relate part of an unfolding story, feature recurring settings or characters, or express a unifying narrative theme". Check the archives of WT:NCTV for past discussions which resulted in reality competition shows being under "(TV series)". Speedy close. -- Netoholic @ 12:14, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose as per Netoholic's reasoning. Regardless of format used between the different countries the episodes are edited in a way to follow storylines naturally unfolding inside the House of each season. Some countries do use a season/series long "theme" that plays into the storyline in the form of rooms, tasks/competitions, etc. Most regional variants also have the interconnected theme from season to season of "expect the unexpected" as Big Brother "can change the rules at any time." A more traditional game show has different contestants with each episode and stick to a strict set of rules.   Alucard 16  ❯❯❯ chat?    17:14, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Netoholic; also adding the program/programme confusion isn't an improvement. Each season of Big Brother features recurring cast members and plotlines, this isn't an anthology-style program. 力 (power~enwiki,  π,  ν ) 16:52, 21 March 2021 (UTC)