Talk:Big Brother (Serbian TV series) season 1

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Requested move 21 June 2018

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Not moved. bd2412 T 15:25, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

– I could not find sources to support that each season was individually named by year/numbers by the broadcaster or the production company for this edition. For the seasons that have a logo in the article it does not support the existing naming structure. In an effort to align the naming convention guidelines of WP:BIGBRO with the established guidelines of WP:NCTV I'm proposing we move the individual season articles to the names suggested.
 * Veliki brat 2006 → Veliki brat (season 1)
 * Veliki brat 2007 → Veliki brat (season 2)
 * Veliki brat 2009 → Veliki brat (season 3)
 * Veliki brat 2011 → Veliki brat (season 4)
 * Veliki brat 2015 → Veliki brat (season 5)
 * Veliki brat VIP 1 → Veliki brat VIP (season 1)
 * Veliki brat VIP 2 → Veliki brat VIP (season 2)
 * Veliki Brat VIP 4 → Veliki brat VIP (season 4)
 * Veliki Brat VIP 5 → Veliki brat VIP (season 5)
 * Veliki Brat VIP All Stars → Veliki brat VIP (season 3)

I have also included the third season which was called Veliki Brat VIP All Stars however since this season is part of the existing Veliki brat VIP and not a proper spin-off in accordance with WP:NCTV and also WP:BIGBRO's naming conventions the third season must follow established naming conventions for consistency. (See WP:TVSEASON for the guideline on this policy from WP:NCTV and also WP:BIGBRO's existing precedent with the seventh season of Big Brother from the United States.)  ♪♫Al ucard   16♫♪  19:22, 21 June 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dekimasu よ! 22:11, 30 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose - Per WP:ENGLISH - should generally use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language, as you would find it in reliable sources. That's exceptionally difficult considering this series has very few English language references. The three English sources I found were within Veliki brat 2007 and together with realityblurred, latimes, and nytimes call it generally "Serbian Big Brother". This indicates the main series page should move Veliki brat to Big Brother (Serbian TV series). I don't know how to handle the seasons, as there may not be English sources which talk about the naming of the seasons, but probably in the pattern Big Brother (Serbia season 1), etc. Please, when you bring these move discussions up, make sure we have the base series names solid, and include English references so that uninvolved editors have an easier time evaluating these. -- Netoholic @  04:46, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * This is the first time there has ever been an issue with the base name Veliki brat being used and from my understanding of policy the use of the name was okay since it is the show's common name and also helps naturally disambiguate the articles. Two of those articles you mention (realityblurred and latimes) also mention its localized name that English Wikipedia currently uses.  ♪♫Al ucard   16♫♪  07:52, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Some more sources -, , , Gonnym (talk) 13:45, 22 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Support as long as the title really is Veliki brat and not Big Brother Serbia or whatever. This "Title_here x (Country_name_here)" stuff is just aberrant. We don't do that with any articles titles about anything, meanwhile we have a stable and site-wide TV convention of "Title_here (season X)", from which there is no reason to diverge in this case.  I have no issue with using the English form if it's the WP:COMMONNAME, but I doubt that it is.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  06:15, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Neutral, but CREATE REDIRECTS no matter what happens. Paintspot Infez (talk) 18:26, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose  names suggested per WP:ENGLISH and WP:NCTV and based on the lack of English RS that use the local name and instead use "Big Brother". Move should be to Big Brother (Serbian TV series), Big Brother (Serbian season 1), Big Brother VIP (Serbian season 1) etc. Special mention of Veliki Brat VIP All Stars which is the 3rd VIP season (based on what the article says) so should be moved to Big Brother VIP (Serbian season 3). --Gonnym (talk) 09:47, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose the current proposal, as per WP:ENGLISH and Netoholic and Gonnym. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:20, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
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Requested move 14 July 2018

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The result of the move request was: consensus to move the pages to the proposed titles at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 21:35, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

– Per WP:ENGLISH and WP:NCTV and based on the lack of English RS that use the local name and instead use "Big Brother". Examples of sources that use the English name: Daily Telegraph, Balkan Insight, Daily Star, book result Gonnym (talk) 16:19, 14 July 2018 (UTC) --Relisting.  Anarchyte ( work  &#124;  talk )  11:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Veliki brat 2006 → Big Brother (Serbian season 1)
 * Veliki brat 2007 → Big Brother (Serbian season 2)
 * Veliki brat 2009 → Big Brother (Serbian season 3)
 * Veliki brat 2011 → Big Brother (Serbian season 4)
 * Veliki brat 2015 → Big Brother (Serbian season 5)
 * Veliki brat VIP 1 → Big Brother VIP (Serbian season 1)
 * Veliki brat VIP 2 → Big Brother VIP (Serbian season 2)
 * Veliki Brat VIP All Stars → Big Brother VIP (Serbian season 3)
 * Veliki Brat VIP 4 → Big Brother VIP (Serbian season 4)
 * Veliki Brat VIP 5 → Big Brother VIP (Serbian season 5)
 * Veliki brat → Big Brother (Serbian TV series)


 * Support, as per WP:NCTV, and previous WP:RM discussion. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:46, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Support In ictu oculi (talk) 11:48, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Support as per nom  ♪♫Al ucard   16♫♪  15:29, 26 July 2018 (UTC)


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