Talk:Big Brother Canada season 5

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So in the residence section of the HouseGuests section, many people believe that it should be included the country that they HouseGuest is originally from (if it is not Canada). This practice was previously in place at Big Brother (U.S. TV series), but it was removed because it was determined that a HouseGuest's country of origin has nothing to do with their residence. The change should be implemented on Big Brother Canada pages as well. The only way around this in my opinion would be changing residence to hometown, as it's true that their origin country has nothing to do with their residence. { [ ( jjj    1238 ) ] }   03:35, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

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 * There's been a lot of IP vandalism on this page as of late, and it seems like it will only get worse. - Hawkeye75  (talk)  08:41, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Summary
The summary is not meant to be overly detailed, only the main points of what happened in the competitions, ceremonies and who was evicted each week. MSalmon (talk) 23:18, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2017
Link Ika's name to her Wikipedia page. Musicalorange6 (talk) 23:17, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Reopen the request when you find Wikipedia page of Ika. regards,  DRAGON BOOSTER   ★  04:26, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Week 4 in the Nominations table
There should be no HoH listed in the first column, the whole point of 'backwards' week is that the entire week is flipped on its head and that there is no HoH at the beginning of the week. There is no source that I can find that labels 'All houseguests' as HoH, unlike in week one of season there when the show explicitly stated that all houseguests are HoH. There have been times in the past where someone who has made a nomination but has not been labelled HoH (Coup d'Etat for example.)12bigbrother12 (talk) 03:43, 31 March 2017 (UTC)


 * However, the definition of an HoH, is a person who nominates two/three houseguests for eviction. To put "none" as the HoH, is wrong, as all of the houseguests got to nominate two people. For the modified HoH comp, later in the week, we can put a note beside it saying BBCAN has modified the rules of the HoH winner for this week. VietPride10 (talk) 03:47, 31 March 2017 (UTC)


 * There is no source that labels all houseguests as HoH, this is an encyclopedia and we cannot add unverified material. Later this week there will be a HoH who will not nominate houseguests for eviction, the whole week is flipped on its head. This week is different to normal. 12bigbrother12 (talk) 03:49, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
 * It is however also unverified to say "none" are HoH, as I have already said multiple times, BB has modified the rules of the HoH competition this week, which can be annotated and explained. For instance, in BBCAN3 with Brittnee's secret power, it was labeled under veto winner, which was nothing of the sort. VietPride10 (talk) 03:52, 31 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Could the week 4 nominations be done in a different color on the table, like in BBCAN3, the votes to save, that new bar in the middle is distracting and mostly unnecessary, when a color could be used to signify why this vote was different Edwyth (talk) 17:57, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The votes to row can be explained in the notes and is not needed MSalmon (talk) 20:08, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

William's secret pov
I was thinking if William does use his veto the color should be this. Vetoes that were voted on are purple and diamonds are the grayish blue. This should be used for secret vetoes. Bgc7676 (talk) 14:06, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
 * There is no need for a color to be used, and there is no need for two columns. The same person won both vetoes so having one column means that it is easy to follow. A precedent for when two PoVs were in play and only one was used was set in Big Brother 14 (U.S.). We have notes that can explain the reasons why William is listed twice as Veto winner. 12bigbrother12 (talk) 19:58, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I think two columns is better, because its more easily explained and having william repeated twice in one column may confuse people. Also for the case of BB14, two columns were not needed since neither Ian nor Jenn used the POV. VietPride10 (talk) 22:26, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Jenn and Ian's vetoes were also two separate competitions whereas William's was a secret power of veto. Also it should not be purple because that represents things Canada voted on in the past. Bgc7676 (talk) 05:04, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Wrapping
The first four evictions should be wrapped!! It looks horrible when they are not wrapped and spread out like that. There is no reason not to let them be wrapped. Bgc7676 (talk) 02:02, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It has been already explained they can not be warped because, it would create an additional line break, and would make the table look inconsistent (3 line breaks to 2 line breaks). Also, you are editing on mobile, which can make the table look different that using a desktop or mac computer.  VietPride10 (talk) 02:09, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

It also looks inconsistent when some columns are twice as thick as others. It just isn't practical. Why not just wrap them all instead of not wrapping them all? Bgc7676 (talk) 16:07, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * you are editing on mobile. It looks a lot different than on desktop. All the other big brother pages have two line breaks so it's isn't "practical" if this page is any different. VietPride10 (talk) 17:11, 28 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The problem with the "no wrap" option is that it stretches beyond the width of the page, making the table difficult to read. I'm using a PC. — RachelRice (talk, contribs) — 17:25, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * BBCAN 5 Voting Table.png, This is how the voting table looks to me on my PC, and as stated without Demetres' choice being not warped, it would cause a 3rd line break, and therefore an inconsistency with the other voting tables which only have two line breaks. Also, the user who keeps reverting my edits, uses mobile which distorts the table very badly than what it looks like on PC. VietPride10 (talk) 04:02, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * No wrap would cause it to have two line breaks instead of three, for the entire table, but in your case, we can wrap the entire table, to make it look consistent, instead of a couple cells having 3 line breaks, and others having two.


 * thumb|left -  - This is how both edits look on my pc and other than the Demetres choice column being narrower I see no difference but regardless of that could someone explain in the most simple way possible what does no wrap actually do?, I've read Template:Nowrap and am still lost ...., Thanks. – Davey 2010 Talk 15:36, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Right let me make this clear as day - You both either discuss it / seek help (WP:30, WP:DRN, WP:RFC) or I'll report both of you for edit warring - Revert one more time and I will report both of you. – Davey 2010 Talk 17:36, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I have been discussing it, I made my point over 12 hours ago, without a reply whatsoever. I have stated, that the edit has it as "Demetres's choice to evict", this basically means a line break is supposed to be after, "Demetres' choice", but on the voting table, the line breaks after "Demetres" instead of "Demetres choice", this leads to 3 line breaks, instead of the consistent 2 line breaks. The use of the nowrap template will fix this, and make "Demetres choice" 2 line breaks instead of three. VietPride10 (talk) 18:03, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes you have been discussing it and I thank you for that however if the other editor doesn't respond you then take it further - You don't keep reverting and reverting, I did tell you both on your respective talkpages to take it further but I see it's since been taken further so I'll stop ranting but infuture I would if this ever occurs again then either go to WP:AN3 or one of the links above, Cheers, – Davey 2010 Talk 19:23, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Would you stop changing the current layout, it is fine as it is. MSalmon (talk) 19:44, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

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Using Blue to indicate votes to save
Although I have no problem with using a color to indicate that the HouseGuests were voting to save, rather than evict, I find it a bit confusing using the same color as what is also used to indicate HouseGuests residing in secret rooms (Allison in Season 2, and Kelsey and Loveita in Season 4). I was just wondering if there was any reasoning behind it? — RachelRice (talk, contribs) — 17:31, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

The house or Canada had to save Allison and Kelsey/Loveita, it is basically the same thing. A vote to save uses that color. Musicalorange6 (talk) 19:13, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2017
Jackie get's evicted 4-1 (1 was Dre) Triple Eviction: Demetre win's HOH competition. Puts up Kevin, Dre and William on Block. Kevin win's POV comp and takes himself off Replacment Nominee is Dillion Dre and William evicted All votes to save DIllion Ottawa.senators94 (talk) 22:56, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Also, please request specific changes in the form of "change XXX to YYY", "add XXX after YYY", or similar. Thanks. Murph 9000 (talk) 23:14, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

RfC on Wrapping
There has been debate about whether or not to use the nowrap template on the Big Brother Canada 5 page to keep the voting table consistent (all columns have 2 line breaks instead of 3) Specifically, the edit states "Demetres' choice (br)" which means a line break after "choice", but when the edit is saved, there is a line break after "Demetres'" causing three line breaks. To fix this, I've used the nowrap template, which fixes it from three line breaks back to 2 to be consistent with the entire voting table. However, a specific user has been constantly reverting my edits. VietPride10 (talk) 01:18, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm seeing three relevant versions to consider. They can be viewed here:
 * 2 line breaks
 * None Box + 2 line breaks:
 * None Box + 3 line breaks:
 * This table is extremely wide. Even on desktop, at common screen resolutions, it scrolls off the right side. I strongly suggest editors here seek a creative alternative design that is not as wide. That would also render this matter moot.
 * IMO, the concern for 2 vs 3 line breaks is a fairly frivolous matter, completely secondary to table width. On that basis I OPPOSE the version with None Box + 2 line breaks. It makes the table even wider. If the None Box is to be used, then 3 line breaks are absolutely appropriate. I slightly prefer the use of the None box for column consistency, but skipping the None Box and just using 2 breaks is acceptable. Alsee (talk) 10:35, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree with Alsee's suggestion. Also, I don't think it's right to suggest that you're "fixing" something that wasn't broken in the first place. — RachelRice (talk, contribs) — 12:42, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

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