Talk:Big Gay Al's Big Gay Boat Ride/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: C T J F 8 3  chat 19:54, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Were they really trying to blow up the whole team? I thought it was just the mascot.
 * I checked back and you're right. I fixed it. —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  04:11, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Is Garrison's whole quote necessary? I realize I probably have a COI, but everything after the first sentence doesn't really add to the page.
 * I cut all but the first sentence. I'd prefer to keep it, since I think it demonstrates how ridiculous Garrison's POV is, but the plot summary is a bit long now as it is anyway, so... —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  03:50, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I like your point on that C T J F 8 3  chat 04:28, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * "When the episode was under production in 1997, it was relatively uncommon for a television series to openly address homosexuality in such overt terms, especially in a cartoon." Can you try and find a source for this
 * The source for this information comes from the commentary itself. Parker said, "In '97, to sort of do this openly gay stuff was still, especially in a cartoon, was pretty weird." He said this in the context of television at the time and how people responded to the episode. I added an inline citation directly to the end of that sentence to try to help clarify that this is the source of the info. —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  03:50, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The jokes were conceived based on a number of real-life offensive remarks sports commentators made and gotten in trouble for." source also please
 * Again, the source is the commentary. Added the inline citation again. —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  03:50, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * "Big Gay Al became one of the most popular and easily recognizable of the non-regular South Park characters" Source?
 * Ok. —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  03:50, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * My main reason for this, is cause I'd assume jesus would be more recognizable, and he isn't really a main character. C T J F 8 3  chat 03:58, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Where it says Big Gay Al's speeches are based on real ones by Eric Stough needs a source.
 * Again, the Stough source is the commentary. I've again added the inline citation to directly after that sentence, but if I'm not mistaken, wouldn't the citation at the end of that paragraph have already covered this information and everything else prior to the citation? —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  04:01, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Ascot needs to be disambiguated, I'm not sure if it is suppose to be Ascot tie or Ascot cap....as does polymorphously
 * It's ascot tie. Fixed it. —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  04:01, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The second paragraph under "Themes" is confusing, and needs a copyedit/rewrite.
 * I've tried to do a bit. However, I don't really have any idea what this part means: "However, the producers themselves often evoke something deeper in these episodes, meaning that the satire is becoming satire to itself. Many left-wing extremists argue otherwise, but some on the right still cling to the belief that the situation the episode explores may by elaborated in the future. The fact that a child comes and understands things through the eyes of a gay man is one common thing seen in this." Looking back, it appears to have been added by an anonymous editor. I don't have access to this book, so could any of the other nominators address this one? If not, perhaps we should just cut it altogether... —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  04:01, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd lean to removing it, as the IP seems to just have thrown it in before a citation. C T J F 8 3  chat 04:08, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. I'm pretty sure it's gibberish anyway... —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  04:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * For the last paragraph of the Cultural References section, there is no mention of the Jew joke (I know it is earlier too), like there is with the rest of them.
 * Speaking for myself, at least, I didn't add that to the cultural references section because it had already been mentioned and addressed in the "Conception and objections" section, and mentioning it again here would be redundant. If you feel strongly it should be added, I can do it, but I'm not sure it's in the best interests of the article... —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  04:07, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm ok with it either way. C T J F 8 3  chat 04:10, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright. I'm going to leave it as-is for now. Thanks! —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  04:17, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It says Out is the most circulated LGBT magazine, what about The Advocate? If there is no source, can you change it to "one of the most circulated"
 * Done. —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  04:07, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Personally, I don't have a problem with images, but the policy says "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." which the main image I don't think removing it would be detrimental. However, if you can source the image in the infobox, saying it is a parody of "It's a Small World", it would reinforce the need for the image.
 * I've expanded the caption of the photo to reflect this. Is this what you are looking for? —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  04:14, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, perfect....not sure where you got donkey from, but I changed it to cow....err, what, it's the South Park Cows, is donkey right then? C T J F 8 3  chat 04:19, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, the mascot is a horse (not a donkey, as I previously thought). The South Park team are the cows, but the Middle Park mascot is a horse. This transcript also refers to it as a horse... —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  04:28, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Purely optional on your part, but I think this picture of Clooney looks a lot better
 * Done. —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  04:07, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Overall good job, let me know if you have any questions/concerns. C T J F 8 3 chat 21:44, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Great job everyone, GA passes! C T J F 8 3  chat 04:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)