Talk:Big Swing Face (Buddy Rich Big Band album)

Requested move 24 February 2021

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The result of the move request was: Moved  (t &#183; c)  buidhe  21:38, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

– The Bruce Hornsby album is not a proper WP:PRIMARYTOPIC over the Buddy Rich Big Band album (e.g., it gets fewer page views despite being 35 years more recent). According to the Buddy Rich article, Rich "found lasting success in 1967 with the formation of the Buddy Rich Big Band". Looking at the cover art of 1967's, the credit is not to Buddy Rich as a solo artist, but to the Buddy Rich Big Band as a unified entity. In fact, Rich's drum-playing is not even featured very prominently on most of the album's tracks. According to the album article and AllMusic, this was the second album credited to the band (it seems that Swingin' New Big Band or The Sounds of '66 must have been the first, although those were in 1966 rather than 1967, so either the 1967 formation date is wrong or it wasn't the second album for the band). There is also a question about whether to include "The" at the beginning of the band name, but the "The" is not consistently included in credits on Buddy Rich Big Band albums (see the cover art of  and ), and we often leave out the "The" in disambiguation phrases anyway (see Category:The Beatles albums, Category:The Beatles songs, Category:The Rolling Stones albums, Category:The Rolling Stones songs, etc.). There is a potential WP:TWODABS issue here, but I think neither is primary. If one of them is primary, I think it is the Buddy Rich Big Band album. That brings us to, which similarly has cover art crediting "Buddy Rich and the Big Band Machine", not Buddy Rich as a solo artist. (Am I the only one who finds the cover art reminiscent of ?) And finally we come to. The cover art shows two titles – both of which append "San Francisco" and one of which omits "& His Band". Amazon shows the form that I propose, except using "and" instead of "&", which differs from the cover art. AllMusic shows Mr. Drums: Live on King Street, San Francisco (omitting his name and band from the title but including "San Francisco"). Discogs matches the current Wikipedia title. —&hairsp;BarrelProof (talk) 20:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Big Swing Face (Buddy Rich album) → Big Swing Face (Buddy Rich Big Band album)
 * Big Swing Face → Big Swing Face (Bruce Hornsby album)
 * Speak No Evil (Buddy Rich album) → Speak No Evil (Buddy Rich and the Big Band Machine album)
 * Mr. Drums: Buddy Rich & His Band Live on King Street → Mr. Drums: Buddy Rich & His Band Live on King Street, San Francisco
 * Support per detailed and well-sourced nomination. WP:NOPRIMARYTOPIC. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 04:14, 25 February 2021 (UTC)