Talk:Bikini Bottom/Archive 1

Characters?
Perhaps the paragraph listing characters should be spun off into its own page? Either that or give it a category heading and bullet list like the others. Thoughts?

-- Ventura 21:22, 2004 Nov 19 (UTC)
 * I agree, it makes the page too long. -- Bobman123 22:47, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

2031?

 * As you see, I'm an avid SpongeBob fan and the month and year the movie takes place in is June 2004, not March 2031.
 * I can prove your theory wrong: Spongebob won 374 consecutive employee of the month awards. which is 31 years, and 2 months. Spongebob joined the Krusty Krab in 1998.  So, 31 years and 2 months would basically be around, well, 2029/2030.  and IF The movie took place in June 2004, SpongeBob would have started working there in April 1973.  1973 is 4 years BEFORE the Krusty Krab opened, 13 years BEFORE SpongeBob was born, and 20 years before Squidward started working there. The calender in Spongebob's bedroom AND the calender at the Krusty Krab both are in March: March 7th has a drawing of the Krusty Krab 2 in Spongebob's room.  When he updates the Krusty Krab calender, Plankton says: "March 14! No wait, it should say the day that Krabs fries!" -AMK152
 * I can prove your theory wrong: the show and movie are TIMELESS, as the show's creator, Stephen Hillenburg says in the insider book, SpongeBob Exposed. -SpongeJustin4
 * you tell 'em spongejustin4
 * Well, using 2004, is INCORRECT info, even though the show is TIMELESS, 2031 is the correct year. -AMK152
 * The movie and show might not be canon with each other. Maybe SpongeBob was born in 1956 in the movie and 1986 in the TV series which explains why there is references to Popeye and Krazy Kat in the movie.
 * Does the year really matter that much? -- Bobman123 22:48, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know...i'm just saying that 2004 for the movie is illogical...i removed "2031" from the Krusty Krab section and it just says March 7, and March 7-14, which makes it sound weird w/o the year, but some people kept changing the year, so i just removed the year. -AMK152
 * Why don't you e-mail Stephen Hillenburg and ask him about the the years in which the show is set. SpongeBob, just like every other Nicktoon has no set date, each episode has a different timeline. Proof from "Hooky": "Nobody took breaks from the Krusty Krab since the chum famine of '59." This encyclopedia is ruining SpongeBob. No more TWENTY THIRTY-ONEs! 17:03, 10 April 2006 (UTC)~


 * Change 2031 to the fictional year SBSP1.
 * I urge you to find an official timeline because the timeline used here is not official canon.
 * Okay, I have gone through certain sources (a couple episodes) and other information to come to the conclusion that the year in the movie can not be determained due to the fact that a) the year SpongeBob was hired is not accurate b) squidward could have won employee of the month between SpongeBob's first day at work and the movie, changing the year. -AMK152 13:10, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

The Chum Famine of 1959?
What is this? -AMK152
 * It is from the Squid on Strike episode
 * No, it's actually from "Hooky" --CrazyLegsKC 06:34, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Patrick and Squidward's birthdates

 * There is no proof of Squidward and Patrick's birthdates. Can someone find proof? Otherwise, I will just delete those. -AMK152 01:17, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, I just removed these pieces of info. -AMK152 01:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Fishitto Fishoi and 1330

 * Can anyone give me any proof of this? Otherwise, I will delete this. -AMK152 14:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Spongebob's Garage

 * The article mentions that "The garage can only be seen in the early short Reef Blowers," but I believe it is also visible towards the beginning of the episode Naughty Nautical Neighbors (around 02:30 in the Complete First Season). Can someone verify this?--Dadadoom 21:10, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, his garage is shown in that episode. -AMK152 01:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Bikini Bottom Dates
I changed the dates based on evidence from SB-129 that proves that SB-129, which is normally considered to have occurred in 1999, occurred in 2017, and because of this all episodes happening after it are after 2017 (for a more detailed explanation, see Talk:Krusty Krab -- 76df457hjkozdfg

National anthem
Unfortunately, folks, lame as it is, the Bikini Bottom national anthem is a song, and song lyrics are copyrighted. I deleted them. :-( --Tysto 21:11, 2005 August 24 (UTC)
 * True, but someone added them again. I will delete them. -- Bobman123 02:31, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think that the national anthem really qualifies as a "song." It's more or less just a quote from the episode "Imitation Krabs."  Aren't brief quotes allowed to be added?  I think the anthem should be retunred to the page. --76.1.32.129 19:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Verifying entries
Anything that goes into the listed sections should be from SpongeBob canon, i.e., SpongeBob episodes or the movie. Other things, such as video games and comics, I don't usually consider canon. If you disagree, please post your thoughts. For now, I'll only keep in the article what I can verify. If you add anything, please add it to the "verified" list along with where it came from.

Verified
These entries I have verified, i.e., seen them in an episode or the movie. I have listed them with the only or first episode they appear in:
 * Barg'n Mart - "Help Wanted"
 * Palace of Pranks - "Pranks A Lot"
 * Phoney Baloney Mustache Emporium - "SpongeBob Meets the Strangler"
 * Toppers (hat store) - "One Krabs' Trash"
 * KRUD - "No Free Rides"
 * Chum Bucket - "Plankton!"
 * Diner - "Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy II"
 * Fancy! - "Chocolate With Nuts"
 * Krusty Krab - "Help Wanted"
 * Krusty Krab 2 - The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
 * Pizza Castle - "The Bully"
 * Shell Shack - "Patty Hype"
 * Super Weenie Hut Jr.'s - "No Weenies Allowed"
 * Weenie Hut Jr.'s - "No Weenies Allowed"
 * Bikini Bottom Cemetery - "Mid-Life Crustacean"
 * Bikini Bottom Historic Village - "Clams"
 * Bikini Bottom Zoo - "The Smoking Peanut"
 * Floaters Cemetery - "One Krabs' Trash"
 * Fry Cook Museum - "Neptune's Spatula"
 * Glove World - "Rock Bottom"
 * Oyster Stadium - "The Smoking Peanut"
 * Pamper Island - "Clams"
 * The Reef - "Something Smells"
 * Sea Needle - "Prehibernation Week"
 * Sizzling Spring Sauna - "Life of Crime"
 * Bunny Buns - "Mid-Life Crustacean"
 * Salty Spittoon - "No Weenies Allowed"
 * Thug Tug (Bar) - The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
 * Tough Tavern - "SpongeBob Meets the Strangler"
 * Bikini Bell - "Life of Crime"
 * Bikini Reality - "Opposite Day"
 * First Nautical Bank - "Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy III"
 * Picnic Supply, Inc. - "Club SpongeBob"
 * Salty Sea Farms - "Life of Crime"
 * Bikini Bottom Airport - "SpongeBob Meets the Strangler"
 * Bikini Bottom Garbage - "The Bully"
 * Hospital - "Suds"
 * Mrs. Puff's Boating School - "Boating School"
 * Shady Shoals Rest Home - "Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy"
 * The Wash - "Mid-Life Crustacean"
 * Weenie Hut General- "No Weenies Allowed"
 * Bikini Bottom Jail - "No Free Rides"
 * Bikini Bottom Police Department - "Life of Crime"
 * The Institution for the Criminally Tiny - The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
 * Spongebob's pineapple house
 * Squidward's Easter Island Head
 * Patrick's rock house
 * Sandy's Treedome
 * Mr. Krabs' anchor house
 * Mama Krabs' pink anchor house
 * Mrs. Puff's pink fish home
 * The Mermalair
 * Anchor Way - "Sleepy Time"
 * Conch Street - "Hall Monitor"
 * Coral Avenue - "Hall Monitor"
 * The County Line - The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
 * Shallow Grave Road - "Nasty Patty"
 * Goo Lagoon - "Ripped Pants"
 * Jellyfish Fields - "Jellyfishing"
 * Kelp Forest - "Club SpongeBob"
 * Make Out Reef - "Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy IV"
 * Mount Climb-Up-And-Fall-Off - Valentine's Day
 * Mussel Beach - "MuscleBob BuffPants"
 * Sand Mountain - "Prehibernation Week"
 * Anchor Toss Competition - "MuscleBob BuffPants"
 * The Bubble Bowl - "Band Geeks"
 * The Fry Cook Games - "The Fry Cook Games"
 * The Great Snail Race - "The Great Snail Race"
 * National Free Balloon Day - "Life of Crime"
 * The Valentine's Day Carnival - "Valentine's Day"
 * Atlantis - "Neptune's Spatula"
 * King Neptune's castle - The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
 * The Poseidome - "Neptune's Spatula"
 * Rock Bottom - "Rock Bottom"
 * Bus Station - "Rock Bottom"
 * Shell City - The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
 * Gift Shop - The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
 * Tentacle Acres - "Squidville"
 * Full of Health - "Squidville"
 * Interpretive Dance Academy - "Squidville"
 * Ukulele Bottom - "I Was a Teenage Gary"
 * Annual Jellyfish Convention - "I Was a Teenage Gary"
 * Goofy Goober's - The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
 * Snailpo - "Missing Identity"
 * Ice Cream - "Hall Monitor"
 * Dump - "Artist Unknown"
 * Gas Station - The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
 * Bikini Bottom Recreation Center - "Artist Unknown"
 * KOLD (Radio station for old people) - "Mid-life crustacean"
 * Lighthouse - "The Sponge who Could Fly"
 * Bikini Bottom Courthouse - "Krabs vs. Plankton"
 * Mattress Themes store - "The Lost Mattress"
 * Bakery - "Band Geeks"
 * Goo Lagoon Pier (Amusement park) - "SpongeBob: Battle for Bikini Bottom" Video Game
 * Rock Bottom Museum - "SpongeBob: Battle for Bikini Bottom" Video Game
 * Sardines (70's Store) - Employee of the Month Game
 * Sublime Seafoods (fancy restaurant) - Employee of the Month Game
 * The Rusty Anchor (Rock Bottom) - Employee of the Month Game
 * WSEA-TV (Rock Bottom) - Employee of the Month Game
 * Albatross Avenue - SpongeBob SquarePants: Revenge of The Flying Dutchman
 * Barnacle Road - SpongeBob SquarePants: Employee of the Month
 * Seashell Street - SpongeBob SquarePants: Revenge of The Flying Dutchman
 * Stormy Way - SpongeBob SquarePants: Revenge of The Flying Dutchman
 * Hiccup Island (Seen in a comic in the magazine 'Nicktoons special #4')

Not verified
The following I cannot verify. If you can verify any of them, move them to the "verified" list along with where it came from (episode name, movie, etc.). Until they get verified, they will stay out of the article.

Government of Bikini Bottom

 * Why did you delete "The type of government is a absolute monarchy(ruled by King Neptune) with some democratically-elected leaders(The mayor and president) at the local level." from the Government of Bikini Bottom"? Please keep it the way I wanted it to. Thanks.
 * It makes more sense, and is organized better my way. -AMK152 15:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Explain Why does the "Government of Bikini Bottom" makes more sense your way than the way I said it? Why,whats the difference?
 * King Neptune does have control over the sea(and why do you say it has a democratic gavernment.Are you saying King Neptune rules the sea as a democracy or a dictator?Why do you say that the exact type of government is uncertain?
 * If you read it, you'll see. -AMK152 01:58, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * If you read it, you'll see. -AMK152 01:58, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Law
Why does sombody keep deleting the no public nudity law? In some episodes, there is a law aganst public nudity. --D-hyo 15:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I've seen every episode and I don't remember ever seeing a "public nudity" law. Can you reference the episode? --AndreniW 21:22, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * In "Bossy Boots," Squidward rips off his pink KK uniform (ending up naked) and a police fish comes over, writes a ticket, and sticks it to Squidward's crotch. That could imply a "no public nudity" law, even if it isn't explicitly stated. --69.69.161.249 23:10, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay then, I see. -AMK152 17:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

WAY TOO LONG!!!!!
I'm sorry, but this article is WAY TOO LONG, because it has WAY TOO MUCH DETAIL! For example, we should list the name of "Mrs. Puff's Boating School" and a BRIEF description of what it is. Including the questions and answers of the driving test is totally excessive. Also, there are many things included in the lists that I, a SpongeBob fan, have NEVER heard of. Granted, I've missed several of the more recent episodes and I don't play any of the video games, but things still need to be cited. And all the unnecessary fluff has GOT TO GO! I think that a complete re-write is in order. --76.1.32.129 19:19, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Personally, I feel that some of the sections should be separated, e.g. a "Places in Bikini Bottom" article. That way all the information stays in Wiki but doesn't clutter up the main Bikini Bottom article.  --AndreniW 21:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * There's a lot of work that needs to be done here, I agree.Knuckles sonic8 23:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh really? I'm removing the cleanup-rewrite sign as this article looks fine to me. What? In an article called Bikini Bottom YOU don't want to include The Fry Cook Games, The Great Snail Race, Hobbies, Bubble blowing, surrounding cities etc. It doesn't matter if you never heard of them. They exsit. That's the matter. If you can tell me what you want deleted and what you want kept do so, but for now the article look's fine. What, article's aren't supposed to have detail. And please stop screaming, 76.1.32.129, it could be considered vandalism to some people. Sections should be seperated? So we should start another article called "Places in Binki Bottom" I don't think so. Why can't that info be on Bikini Bottom? Tree  bark  ( talk ) 14:40, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm the one that put it there (under an IP address rather than my username), and I sadly do think that this article needs a tremendous amount of work. I never said *which* things I hadn't heard of--for your information I *have* heard of Fry Cook Games, Greak Snail Race, and bubble blowing, and I'm perfectly fine with them staying there.  But there are some things that I haven't--the ones that stick out in my mind are "Quittersville," "Failuretown," and "Loserburg."  Haven't heard of them.  If they do exist in SB's universe, that's fine, but nothing should be in the article unless it can be cited.  And I'm sorry, but I still think the article contains way too much extraneous detail--which is probably the main reason why it's currently 57 kb long.  When an article starts getting over the preferable size, it's probably time to start trimming it down or dividing it into sections.  And I was not "screaming"--I was merely trying to emphasize what I was saying.  I apologize if I came off as a screamer; I'll instead use asterisks for emphasis in the future.  I'm going to restore the "cleanup-rewrite" tag" and I'll very soon start making the changes that need to be made.  --CrazyLegsKC 19:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm going to watch this page, but have you listens to Chimps Ahoy? It clearly says the places for losers are failuretown, and loserburg. Please create an article Places in Binki Bottom when you remove some of the towns. Any edits I don't like maybe reverted. Instead use  which will come out as bold. Italics will come out using the same thing but replacing the b with an i. Tree  bark  ( talk ) 02:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, using    's will make it bold, and    's will make it italic. And why would I remove towns and put them in there?  Bikini Bottom is a town, so it would be a factual error to place other towns there.  Plus, it's Places in Bikini Bottom', not Binki Bottom.  --AndreniW 03:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Proposed changes
Here are the changes I think should be made.
 * The list of towns should be given its own page, under the title Towns in SpongeBob SquarePants or List of towns in SpongeBob SquarePants, or something similar. Since this article is about Bikini Bottom, it shouldn't include information about other towns.  We can provide a link to the new page, with a brief description, such as "Various other towns are located near Bikini Bottom, and are sometimes included in the stories."
 * Mrs. Puff's Boating School should be given its own page. There's enough information on it here, as well as some info from the show that hasn't been mentioned, for it to merit its own article, IMO.  Plus, as said above, it's kind of excessive to give this much detail about it in an article about Bikini Bottom.
 * The "Unofficial History" section should be trashed completely. It seems very sketchy, and, by its own admittance, is "Unofficial"--only things that are official canon should be included.
 * Each of the entries in the "Homes" section should be moved to the pages of their respective characters. I think the descriptions are too detailed to be included on this page, or the "Places in Bikini Bottom" page.  We can include a list of the homes (ie, "SpongeBob's pineapple home," "Sandy's treedome," "Squidward's Easter Island Head"), with links to their descriptions on the character pages.

Let me know what you think of these changes. --CrazyLegsKC 18:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * IMO, the change of the Places in Bikini Bottom to its own article was a good idea. But, I think that the features should COMPLETELY be moved over there, to decrease the size of the article. I say when the Places in Bikini Bottom article gets bigger, we then can separate that, but the only "places" that should have their own article are Krusty Krab, Chum Bucket, and Goo Lagoon. The AMK152 17:25, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, I agree with having Mrs. Puff's Boating School onits own page. -AMK152 02:41, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Improving Article

 * This article is now at its recommended size. Bikini Bottom is now broken into 3 articles. We still need to make the article look better, hopefully make it a good or featured article.  I will continue to improve it after i post this. -AMK152 18:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I changed the history section from a list form, to a paragraph form. If anyone has anyway to improve it, please do so. It still needs some work. -AMK152 17:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Lead Section

 * The lead section needs to be much longer. Could someone help me expand it, or have any suggestions on what to put in there? -AMK152 03:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Peer Review Suggestions
Here is a list of the Peer review suggestions:

Images
Do not add images without a source unless you include a source. I have been reverting a lot of times on this page; because all images do not have a source. They have been tagged with the template no source. C a  rm  el  apple  03:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * They have a source, please look it over again. -AMK152 03:42, 12 August 2006 (UTC)