Talk:Bildungsbürgertum

Hi,

AFAICS the lede statement "The Bildungsbürgertum could be described as the intellectual and economic upper bourgeoisie in contrast to the Kleinbürgertum (Petite bourgeoisie)" is wrong, at least wrt. Germany. The "grand bourgeoisie" were the citizens of free cities, like Hamburg, that had acquired "full citizenship" (or "great/high c."), gaining access to trade privileges and becoming eligible to high office. Those with lesser and fewer rights were "petite bourgeois". The "scholarly ..." or "liberal arts bourgeoisie" were, at least originally, outside this distinction. One might even say that the BBtum arose because Germany, as a late starter in the industrial revolution, had a much smaller class of "merchant bourgeois" than e.g. England, making education for civil service, not trade or industry, the main route for upward social mobility. Of coure, once the BBtum became "arrivees", their class merged with the wealthy and noble to constitute part of Gemany's "grand bourgeoisie". Now just to activate Slim Shady powers: "Must .... find ... refs ..."

T 2001:4610:A:5E:0:0:0:4661 (talk) 23:04, 16 November 2014 (UTC)