Talk:Bill Joy/Archives/2014

Interesting article about 'genius'
By Malcom Gladwell mentions Joy throughout.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/nov/15/malcolm-gladwell-outliers-extract

92.40.213.245 (talk) 22:45, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

No Joy
How could it be that an article that has been here for four years is so sketchy and uninformative? And how could it possibly have no talk page discussion? Come on, let's get going and get some good biography going. Surely someone here knows Bill and can supply a better lifestory.....--69.10.102.49 11:14, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Sometimes you have to think very carefully about what isn't said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.55.151 (talk) 04:24, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Question
At one point, Bill Joy freaked out about the future of AI and technology. That went on, I think, for a couple years.

Then he joined a venture capital firm, and is investing in technologies.

Does anyone have any evidence or insight into what changed?


 * I don't think this is evidence he has changed his viewpoints. He was/is against some technologies, not all of them, SqueakBox 15:56, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

I think you'll find the answer to your question here, one of the external link articles, SqueakBox 18:02, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Unabomber
I removed the reference to the Unabomber in the Fears section. The Wired article states clearly that Kurzweil was the catalyst for his fears. Kurzweil is the one who uses the Unabomber manifesto to illustrate his points. Mattgrommes 16:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

SunOS
As I recall from Nerds 2.0.1: A Brief History of the Internet., he wrote or rewrote SunOS in a weekend. Also, this article could use a picture, though few good pictures of him exist, not even including public domain pictures. 71.81.44.202 16:48, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * the full movie is viewable here as well: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Nerds+2.0.1 Family Guy Guy 15:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

An emacs user, no?
I've heard from a few sources that he became a GNU Emacs user. Can someone confirm/deny? Gronky 00:48, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Answered in the following article: Ed (text editor). What's wikipedia policy on this, should that subsection be repeated here in this article, or not? Seems too short to merely wikilink to, but repeating it here feels redundant... --Lemi4 05:46, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes. Thanks, SqueakBox 23:57, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

TCP/IP?
Bill Joy is pretty amazing, but the article makes it sound like he invented TCP/IP. He didn't, did he? I don't see anything at Internet protocol suite about that. --Allen 05:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No response; removed. --Allen 18:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * He didn't invent TCP/IP, but he was the first to program a working implementation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.85.44 (talk) 23:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

The statements about BBN's work on TCP/IP are nonsense. I worked with Rob Gurwitz at BBN, and did the port of his TCP/IP implementation from the VAX-11/780 to another architecture (the BBN C/70). It worked just fine, and in fact, a good deal of the BBN code showed up in the Berkeley implementation. It's one thing to embellish Bill Joy's legend, but there's no reason to disparage the good work done by others.

I was also a grad student at Berkeley during the time that 3BSD was being developed, and I think it's a shame that Ozalp Babaoglu doesn't get the credit he deserves for his work to add paging support to BSD UNIX. This was the major technical challenge in turning UNIX 32V into BSD. Wizamere (talk) 16:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

known for BSD
I'm considering adding BSD to the `known for' section in the infobox. I know he didn't single-handedly write BSD, but for better or worse he is known as a the primary contributor, and something he is known for. Thoughts? ~ 10nitro (talk) 03:21, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Poor photo choice
Although the photo shown at the top is close up, it's not really flattering to him to have a few beers in front of him. Can't anyone find a more appropriate photo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.213.19.99 (talk) 13:01, 3 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Many less than optimal photos on Wiki due to copyright reasons - may well be the case here? Just a thought.--Soundofmusicals (talk) 21:01, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Despite this he is a venture capitalist...
I added Template:Who to that paragraph because it appears right after a long paragraph in which he appears to refer to Ray Kurzweil. Hopefully somebody who actually knows who he is in those two paragraphs can clarify them. Theyranos (talk) 03:18, 7 September 2011 (UTC)