Talk:Bill Veeck

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A truly excellent article. Only change that I would think about making is a mention of his autobiography, Veeck as in Wreck, but I won't touch an article that good to change anything myself!

Rlquall 21 July 2004 17:55 UTC

What about Bill Giles?
This entry says "Veeck was the last owner to purchase a baseball franchise without an independent fortune," but I think the chairman/owner of the Phillies, Bill Giles, had to mortage his home when he bought the team in the early 1980s. Giles wasn't "poor" by any means but he definitely did not have an independent fortune.

photo
The best we can do for a photo is one of the hall of fame?

Date confusion - L.A. expansion versus selling White Sox
I'm a little confused - if Veeck was forced by ill health to sell his team in 1961, why ws he shortly afterward considering buying into another one. On the the other hand, the expansion occurred in 1961, but discussion about who would own it would have heppened in late 1960, so that is possible, but why would Veeck have considered being part-owner of an expansion team if he already owned the White Sox? What he already thinking of selling the? In which case, perhaps his ill health may have been exacerbated by all this wheeling and dealing.4.68.248.130 (talk) 19:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

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Use of "the late"
" ... Subsequently, the article was strongly challenged by the late historian Jules Tygiel, who refuted it point-by-point in an article in the 2006 issue of SABR's The Baseball Research Journal,[7] and in an appendix, entitled "Did Bill Veeck Lie About His Plan to Purchase the ’43 Phillies?", published in Paul Dickson's biography, Bill Veeck: Baseball's Greatest Maverick.[8]"

I question the need for "late." I suspect that Tygiel was recently deceased at the time this text was added., However, it's not as if the the refutation was published posthumously, so I see no need to single him out in an article wherein just about every other person mentioned is deceased. WHPratt (talk) 14:03, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Another son?
This is the obituary for my high school physics teacher, Bill Veeck III, who died too young. He was Bill Jr.'s oldest son. Why is he not listed with the other children? https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1985-01-30-8501060569-story.html DaKine (talk) 04:59, 30 December 2018 (UTC)


 * In Veeck's autobiography, he explains that he had his first marriage annulled (he mentioned Pauline Privilege, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_privilege) so that he could marry a Catholic woman within that Church. Perhaps he didn't refer to elements of that earlier marriage thereafter. WHPratt (talk) 17:21, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Phillies transaction
Added material to clarify what the Tygiel rebuttal article concerned and what his conclusions were. Arnold Rothstein1921 (talk) 02:09, 4 October 2020 (UTC)