Talk:Billie Nipper/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: 凰兰时罗 (talk · contribs) 21:47, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Replies in order of comments:


 * 1) Will expand the lead by at least another paragraph, including some of the more important details from the rest of the article.
 * 2) Will source that one odd sentence.
 * 3) Her art appears to consist mainly of horse portraits, done in either a realistic, photographic style (one source shows a painting of a mare and newborn foal lying in a stall) or the montage style, which she used for most of the World Grand Champion portraits. I'm not really happy with the link used to explain montage, because while that's the word they use in the sources, that Wikipedia article doesn't describe what Nipper did. In most of the paintings, there's one small picture of the horse in a pasture or something, another one of its head, and then one of it in a horse show class, all on the same canvas. Everything I've seen of hers is in a realistic style, though. I don't know if it's expressionist; to me that means Monet and the soft, blurred-looking things like he did. I'll look for critical reception or reviews, though no telling what I'll find in that area. Update: Found out that she did landscapes and added that.
 * 4) Will look into her horse breeding, and include it if she bred a champion or horse that became really notable in some way. I think she was inducted into the Hall of Fame mostly for her paintings. Can rephrase in order to make that clearer.
 * White Arabian Filly Neigh 23:08, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

On 3: It looks like our views on the issues of her artistic style within the scope of existing sources are very similar. I was referring to the same non-conformity. So, if expressionism is clearly incorrect, the challenge is to find other sources. However, please keep in mind that if an honest and comprehensive effort to locate such sources fails, I can't insist on the addition of this section. If material is not in reliable sources, I can't suggest its inclusion. It's still a little unusual to have an article about an artist without any in-depth treatment of her art, but I understand that this case might be unique. Perhaps, if horses were more important than the artistic style, than more information can be discovered on horse-breading...? 凰兰时罗 (talk) 23:33, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It seems like she's most famous for her portraits of the World Grand Champions. Her first one was done in 1976, and it's an annual thing, so by my count she painted 37 of them, all different horses. (The same horse won 2013-2015, and she didn't live to see the 2016 competition.) In most cases the original paintings seem to be owned by whoever owned that particular horse, but the sources do say prints were made and sold. The World Grand Champion horses are pretty iconic and generally loved by a lot of people, so the prints seem to be in high demand--they're still available for sale. I'm looking at the sources already there and trying to expand some. White Arabian Filly  Neigh 23:49, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Update: None of the sources say anything about a horse she bred being notable, so I think that must have been more of a hobby. One of the sources does say that she was given an award by the Walking Horse Trainers Association for being a friend of the group, so I think I will add that. I can't find any reviews of her work, but given her subject matter and the fact that she lived in a fairly rural area without a lot of art, that's not surprising. ::Update again: I posted a note on the WikiProject Arts talk page to see if anybody knew of a source for reviews of her art. No replies so far, but I thought they might know of something that wouldn't show up in a regular Google search. White Arabian Filly  Neigh 18:54, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay. As I mentioned before, if an honest and comprehensive search doesn't yield anything, I'll assume that the article is complete. I'll take your word for it. 凰兰时罗 (talk) 21:12, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No replies as yet, but I'm going to give them another day because a lot of people don't edit on weekends. If nothing is posted by tomorrow night, I'll assume they can't find anything either. White Arabian Filly  Neigh 22:38, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * So, what's the current status? 凰兰时罗 (talk) 16:33, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No replies from the arts project, and I haven't found anything additional online. I'm guessing that if anything else is out there, it's offline and hard to get. Are you ready to pass this? White Arabian Filly  Neigh 23:51, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes. Thank you for efforts to make another Good Article! And thank you for your attempt to find additional sources. 凰兰时罗 (talk) 05:33, 13 January 2017 (UTC)