Talk:Billy Kilmer

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Post-Playing Career
The section ends with the following sentence:
 * "On September 17, 2010, Colin Cowherd was the first person to ever reference Kilmer on sports radio."

Presumably this would be the first time since retiring, as many games were probably broadcast on radio. Also, a citation is needed for such a specific assertion. Ileanadu (talk) 21:53, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

I cut it. He was regularly referred to on the Ken Beatrice show from memory. Plus how the heck can anyone PROVE the first time of referring to someone on the radio. Plus it boggles the mind, to think this was the first referal. Burden of proof on the "first" supporter. TCO (talk) 18:10, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Native of?
If he was born in Topeka, how can he be a native of Azusa? I am assuming that perhaps he moved there at a young age and grew up there, but that doesn't make him a native. Wschart (talk) 04:45, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Tom Dempsey's 63 Yard Field Goal
For quite some time, this article has included an uncited story about a "brief but friendly dispute" over who was the holder for Tom Dempsey's legendary 63-yard field goal. The same story is echoed in Dempsey's own Wikipedia article. There's no mention of who the dispute was between, or when it happened. Supposedly, it was "widely believed" by some unspecified group of people during some unspecified period that Kilmer was the holder, until photographic evidence surfaced at some unspecified point in time showing that in fact an obscure defensive back named Joe Scarpati was the holder. This would be original research if I put it in the article, but I have been unable to find any evidence that anyone ever believed that anyone other Scarpati was Dempsey's holder. There are quite a few stories out there about Dempsey's still-legendary feat, some of which do mention that Kilmer was the Saint's quarterback who led the drive which ended with Dempsey's field goal. But, none of the accounts I have seen have ever even hinted that Kilmer might have been the holder, and most of them in fact specifically give credit to Scarpati.

Here's the seemingly spurious story as it appeared in late March 2020.


 * A short, but friendly dispute arose[by whom?] about who was the actual holder of Tom Dempsey's record-setting 63 yard field goal kick. For many years, it was widely believed that Kilmer was the holder, but it was actually Saints' safety Joe Scarpati (#21), who was the holder of the (then) record-setting field goal. The dispute was finally put to rest, as still pictures and a few videos of that moment finally surfaced, showing that Scarpati mentioned by name by veteran CBS (television) announcer Lindsey Nelson (Don Criqui on radio), and verified by his jersey number #21) was indeed the holder of Dempsey's kick. A few weeks after the record-setting kick, Kilmer was traded to the Washington Redskins, where he achieved greater fame, Dempsey was traded to the Philadelphia Eagles. Just a few days after Kilmer and Dempsey were traded, Scarpati retired from professional football.

Timothy Horrigan (talk) 20:35, 30 March 2020 (UTC)