Talk:Billy Ocean/Archive 1

Shenfield?
I'm a bit dubious about the Shenfield reference. Can anyone provide any citation to back that one up?

And the chart positions seem a bit US-centric for a UK-based artist. I'll probably go through later and augment the information with UK chart stats using my Guiness book, if nobody objects? David Brider 14:56, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

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Article needs image
Should this image be used? http://www.nndb.com/people/033/000024958/ocean01.jpg -Yancyfry 04:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Gay?
Is it true that Billy Ocean is a gay man?71.185.238.95 (talk) 18:51, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Well I just saw him and he introduced his daughter as one of his backup singers and he kissed quite a few ladies in the audience... DJParker39 (talk) 04:08, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Birth Name and Stage Name
according to my sources, at his concert at the Cresset Peterborough he said he got his name from the estate where he grew up, The Ocean Estate, London. Please check into this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.6.202.46 (talk) 16:32, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * What, precisely, is stopping you from checking into this ? Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:23, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * According to this that is correct - I'll edit the page and add the appropriate cite. (He's also literally the only famous person ever to have gone to my old school...) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.135.1.183 (talk) 14:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Billy did grow up on the Ocean estate bow —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.60.133 (talk) 10:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

According to the reference quoted right after his birth name, his last name was Charles, not Ocean, so clearly whoever did that edit and whomever else has been editing this article has been plain old asleep at the switch. I edited the information based on the reference and the multiple mentions that he later took the "ocean" stage name, making it very unlikely his birth name was Ocean. 74.102.175.157 (talk) 16:58, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Questionable information
It says: "A remix of the single by Will.I.Am was released in 2005, and it later appeared on Pitchfork's "Top 500 Tracks of the 2000s" countdown, at #87.[11]". But I couldn't find mention of this on the Will.I.Am page on wikipedia, or anything on the link supplied.

Ditto. #87 on the Pitchfork list is Mike Jones (ft. Paul Wall and Slim Thug) "Still Tippin" -Dwchin (talk) 13:04, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Origin
Origin:

1. The beginning of something's existence. 2. A person's social background or ancestry.

By neither of these definitions is Billy Ocean's 'origin' Romford. The article itself states that he didn't move to England until he was 8, so his origin is indisputably Trinidad! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.168.190.109 (talk) 20:10, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Ocean father of La Toya Jackson's kids?
In the article it states: "Ocean subsequently fathered five sons with Jackson, the youngest being singer, songwriter and rapper Frank Ocean." Now neither the article on La Toya Jackson nor the article on Frank Ocean testify to that and with Billy Ocean's official website his kids are mentioned he had with his wife (not LTJ.) So - what about that? --M.Buelles (talk) 05:14, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Top gear cover
Did they actually record this? I mean there are a lot of performances on TV of songs but I wouldn't call them proper cover versions. Btljs (talk) 17:14, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Blatant Self Promotion
I can't see any reason for this "To coincide with this tour and album launch, Ocean worked with Adoseof Design on a revision of Ocean's website"  to be in the article, other then it was likely added by this web designer to promote their work. Status4 (talk) 07:42, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Billy Ocean is Trinidadian (of Grenadian roots)
I agree with what Sinebot said. I heard a quiz on the radio today related to a Billy Ocean song that has a car motor sound in it, so, looked up the year the song was released. My surprise was that he is "actually" British according to Wikipedia's claim. Only after deciding to read further down the page, did I find see that my assumption that he was born in the West Indies is correct, he also apparently lived the first 8 years of his childhood there. Some countries just love claiming people that were actually born and spent parts of their childhood in their original country, especially when they've become successful. Australia loves doing this - you just have to sneeze there. Tari (talk) 23:21, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Both Grenada and Trinidad were members of the British Empire at the time of Billy Ocean's birth, meaning that he was likely born a British subject and therefore is as British as any other Briton.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.31.130.124 (talk) 13:02, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

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Billy had an extra lung?
This sentence seems unusual and I can't find the reference or any other reference to Billy's "condition." Did Billy really have an "extra lung?" Extra pulmonary node?

"Following his time with Scorched Earth, a routine doctor's appointment discovered an extra pulmonary node central to his (Billy's) albeit medically normal lungs. This extra lung has been attributed with the longevity of Billys singing career. [9]"

Is this sentence a joke and should it be removed? Joel.sbateman (talk) 00:36, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure it was a joke, as it was attributed to "Dr. R. Noble" of BBC 6, which is apparently comedian Ross Noble. As such, I've removed it, and commented out my reasoning. However, by now it's spread to other sources, which therefore cannot be trusted unless they're from earlier than 2015. DS (talk) 16:09, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

More recent image
Editors may be surprised to see how Billy looks these days e.g. his Twitter account, TimeOut, Daily Fail. Perhaps a more up to date, copyright-free, image might come to light, which could be used in the article. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:32, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Introductory paragraph
"He was the most popular Trinidad–British R&B singer-songwriter of the early to mid-1980s."

Is this a necessary statement? How many other Trinidad-British R&B singer-songwriters were active in the early to mid-1980s?--2600:1008:B067:FDE4:BC56:910C:9710:9894 (talk) 08:57, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

British Windward Islands
The edit summary here said "no such entity ever existed". The article evidently shows that is incorrect. But it included Tobago only until 1889, when it was joined to Trinidad. It existed until 31 December 1959. But on 1 January 1950, when Charles was born, Trinidad and Tobago had been an entirely separate entity for 61 years. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:03, 18 January 2022 (UTC)