Talk:Biodyl

Another ingredients list:. --Una Smith (talk) 05:28, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Exhausted sources
Just so no one has to repeat the searches, there is currently no literature on this compound on PubMed or DrugBank. ---kilbad (talk) 20:24, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! That is very helpful information.  --Una Smith (talk) 20:39, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Did you know?
Nominated as a DYK: Template talk:Did you know. --Una Smith (talk) 21:05, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * ...that the sudden deaths of 21 polo ponies at an international polo match, attributed to adulterated Biodyl, possibly was due to a compounding error by a local pharmacy?


 * Articles mentioned in the hook are likely to get a really big spike in page views. --Una Smith (talk) 21:20, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * What about interchanging the words "possibly" and "was,"? i.e. "was possibly due to..." ---kilbad (talk) 21:42, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a misleading statement. It makes it sound like Biodyl was involved, but really it was an attempt by the pharmacy to replicate the formula of Biodyl, not Biodyl itself. Looie496 (talk) 02:11, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Please modify the statement as needed. ---kilbad (talk) 02:24, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe replace the last clause with "...is now believed to have been caused by a compounding error by a local pharmacy that was attempting to duplicate the formula for Biodyl". I know it's more complicated, but we are oliged to make it clear that no actual Biodyl was ever involved in this. Looie496 (talk) 02:55, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * But actual Biodyl is involved, in that the team uses it routinely all over the world where it is available, and the team captain said they were using it in Florida. The team got slammed in the US media for using an "illegal" and "banned" drug (which Biodyl is not).  --Una Smith (talk) 03:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * All the recent news stories say that it wasn't really Biodyl. From the New York Times: "a statement released to The Associated Press on Thursday by the polo team, Lechuza Caracas, indicated that a team veterinarian had ordered a vitamin mixture similar to Biodyl, a supplement that is not approved by the Food and Drug Administration"  Reuters has the same.  Biodyl is in fact illegal for veterinary use in the USA, although it is legal in some other countries.  The pharmacy tried to replicate the recipe (which is itself of questionable legality), and botched the proportions. Looie496 (talk) 04:20, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * To follow up a bit more, you're completely right that the team has used Biodyl, and it might or might not have done long-term harm, but the crucial point is that Biodyl had nothing to do with killing those ponies on that day. Looie496 (talk) 04:24, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * How does "not FDA-approved" equal "illegal"? Also, at this point it is still unclear whether the horses were injected with brand name Biodyl, or something else from the Ocala pharmacy.  Compounding itself may become illegal, but as I understand it at this time compounding is not subject to FDA approval and not illegal.  Finally, the media outcry about the (presumed) use of Biodyl does not vanish just because new information has come to light.  --Una Smith (talk) 04:29, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I agree this should be an "In the News" item rather than a DYK... --Una Smith (talk) 03:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Will someone post this "In the news"?
Perhaps someone could try to get this article into the news section? See In_the_news_section_on_the_Main_Page/Candidates ---kilbad (talk) 00:06, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

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