Talk:Birch trumpet

Known in Norway, Sweden, Finland and Latvia, and hence not native Swedish
The "neverlur" is an instrument known in Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Latvia, and hence not a native Swedish instrument. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohedland (talk • contribs) 16:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Norway
It is well known in Norway as well as Sweden. The Swedish Wikipedia article states this clearly.



You will find similar information in several articles and web pages like:
 * Lur -> Wooden lurs
 * The Norwegian Wikipedia article about lur
 * Prillar-Guri (Pictures of the Prillarguri statue in Otta, Norway)
 * The Norwegian company Naturinstrumenter (Nature instruments. Text in Norwegian and English) manufacture and sell neverlur and several other instruments.
 * Information about neverlur and how to make one in Norwegian and English with audio sample
 * YouTube video "Magnar Storbekken, instrumentmaker (NRK Folklab 2012)" which is part of a Norwegian TV program from Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation, shows instrument manufacturer Magnar Storbækken focusing on bukkehorn with Norwegian commentary, but he manufactures several traditional (Norwegian) wind instruments made of wood, bone and horn, including neverlur
 * Norwegian YouTube examples of neverlur playing:
 * Sissel Morken Gullord plays the wooden lur at a shieling (Norwegian: seter).
 * Gaute Vikdal at the Opening Gala of Oslo Opera House 12 April 2008 from approximately 0:58.
 * Gaute Vikdal play neverlur accompanied by the foghorn at Tungenes Lighthouse 19 November 2011
 * Testing neverlur
 * Official Opening of Fagerhøi Humanistisk Senter
 * Akitmanho - Waves of the North (UKM Festivalen 2010) with Didgeridoo, Cello and Neverlur and more. Nils Andreas Granseth: Keyboard/Neverlur/Didgeridoo.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohedland (talk • contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 15:23, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Finland


In Finland the instrument is called Tuohitorvi:

"Finsk folkemusikk går tilbake til førkristen tid, blant annet ‘Runesangene’ tilknyttet ‘Kalevala’-kvadene, karelske gråtekvad under seremonier preget av sterk sinnsbevegelse og samisk joik. Instrumenter som kantele, fløyter, horn, stråkharpa og neverlur ga finsk folkemusikk et særpreg. Belegg for kirkesang i middelalderen finnes, og orgler og orgelmusikk er omtalt fra omkring 1550. "
 * Extraction from Norwegian encyclopedia article:
 * The Musical Instrument Museum in Scottsdale, Arizona has on display several tuohitorvi from Finland: http://bdavidcathell.com/LAHP/Archives/2011/LAHP_110516/Life_After_HP_110516.htm
 * Picture of different Tuohitorvi: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hwF4Lf8egEY/S9L800ZIKrI/AAAAAAAACV8/iTIqa_pM4SM/s1600/tuohis.JPG
 * Source page with text: http://esoteerinenmaantiede.blogspot.no/2010_04_01_archive.html

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohedland (talk • contribs) 14:50, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Latvia
In Latvia the instrument is called Taure: "Folkemusikken har dype historiske røtter, men innsamlingen av denne tradisjonen begynte først på 1800-tallet. Folkesangen omfatter mange former, hvor de fleste synges av kvinner og er knyttet til ritualer, årstider og dagliglivet. Videre synges det til dans. Folkeinstrumentene omfatter kokle (siter, i slekt med finsk katele), fele, stabule (blokkfløytetype), ganurags (gjeterhorn), taure (krummet neverlur), dudas (sekkepipe) og trideksnis (metallrasle). " "Sadzives music – village dances and songs – use instruments including kokles (zither), dūdas (bagpipe), taure (wooden trumpet), stabule (whistle), rata lira (hurdy-gurdy), trideksnis (rattle-stick), vargas (Jew’s harp), gīgas (trough fiddle) and – more recently – violin and accordion."
 * Norwegian encyclopedia (SNL) article "Musikk i Latvia" (music in Latvia), last paragraph:
 * World Music Network, "The Music of the Baltic States":
 * Vilcina TV: Video: "Taure - Children tray to use long wooden horn"
 * "Vilcins TV is channel for folks, who like big festivals and traditional culture. There you can watch nice moments from the biggest children festival, which is coming to take place in Riga, Latvia. Over 30 000 children age 3 â€“ 18 prepared their songs, dances and music. Enjoy!"
 * flickr picture: "tāšu taure / birch bark bugle"

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohedland (talk • contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 16:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Similar instruments
Similar instruments with length up to 4-5 meters are known from the Carpathian Mountains, Alps (alphorn), and Pyrenees. --Ohedland (talk) 16:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

The Oseberg tube
Resources for writing and further investigation: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohedland (talk • contribs) 14:42, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * O.J.'s Trumpet Page: http://abel.hive.no/trompet/oseberg/
 * An article about the Oseberg tube including several different practicle blowing experiments with copies: http://abel.hive.no/trompet/oseberg/The_Oseberg_tube.pdf
 * Video of Olaf Brattegaard blowing on a copy of the Oseberg tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oApZIm1ReaE

Herning and Holling
Resources for writing and further investigation:
 * An article about the Oseberg tube has a section about "Other findings" about wooden lurs found in Herning and Holing in Denmark (with pictures): http://abel.hive.no/trompet/oseberg/The_Oseberg_tube.pdf
 * Danish articles about the wooden lurs found in Herning and Holing:
 * Vikingelandsbyen: "Lur Gjallarhorn" (with pictures): http://vikingelandsbyen.dk/filer/denkrummelur.pdf
 * Museum Midtjylland: "Foredrag på Herning Museum om 1500 år gamle lurer af træ.": http://www.museummidtjylland.dk/index.php/pressemeddelelser/282-foredrag-pa-herning-museum-om-1500-ar-gamle-lurer-af-trae.html

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohedland (talk • contribs) 14:42, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Miscellaneous
Resources for writing and further investigation:


 * Digitalt Museum: Information in Norwegian and Swedish about a näverlur made by Rune Selén in 2004 and about the manufacturing process of such näverlurs. Some of the information is from an article "Vår Herres lurmakare" (Our Lord's lur manufacturer) written by John-Erik Eggen in the magazine Dalarnas spelmansblad (ISSN: 0280-6584) 2/2001: http://www.digitaltmuseum.no/things/nverlur/S-UM/UM37517?query=n%C3%A4ver&search_context=1&page=7&count=666&pos=144
 * Golden Horns of Gallehus
 * O.J.'s Trumpet Page: "The Wooden Lurs" including some information about related instruments: http://abel.hive.no/trumpet/lur/wood/
 * Hout van Henk: Neverlur (Noorse signaalhoorn) (in Dutch(?)): http://www.houtvanhenk.com/houtbewerking/muziekinstrumenten/neverlur-noorse-signaalhoorn/
 * The Musical Instrument Museum in Scottsdale, Arizona has on display some that look like neverlurs from Lithuania: http://bdavidcathell.com/LAHP/Archives/2011/LAHP_110516/Life_After_HP_110516.htm

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohedland (talk • contribs) 15:42, 6 August 2013 (UTC)