Talk:Birdy (singer)

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Just a note: although Debrett's lists Miss van den Bogaerde's Christian names as 'Jasmine Lucilla Elizabeth Jennifer', she is credited as a songwriter as 'Jasmine Lucilla Elisabeth (note the different spelling) van den Bogaerde'. Just including this for completeness's sake! Ashiyura (talk) 14:37, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

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 * Archive 1 successful, archive 2 needed an older version due to yearly festival changes.-- &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;  &#9743;(ring-ring)  19:43, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 23 March 2016

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Number   5  7  19:05, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

– Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Page view statistics show that the majority of page views for topics named "Birdy" is this article. Notice that the disambiguation page currently at the base title gets quite a number of views? This means that we are inconveniencing many readers by sending them to the disambiguation page when most of them are looking for the singer. Over half of the results of a search of "birdy -wikipedia" on DuckDuckGo are about the singer. sst✈ 10:37, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Birdy (singer) → Birdy
 * Birdy → Birdy (disambiguation)
 * Support. Yeah why not. I don't think any of the other targets will suddenly acquire much significance. Nohomersryan (talk) 12:44, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Clear primary topic. Unreal7 (talk) 17:19, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose doesn't pass either part of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC test. Why make life difficult for users? In ictu oculi (talk) 17:22, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
 * And again this template is in the wrong place. Done like this it guarantees alerts go only related to this article making a selective call on pop music editors not to editors working on the rest of the encyclopedia. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:37, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
 * You do realize that a bot places a message on the other talk page, right? SST  flyer  09:34, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * do you know what an alert is? See WikiProject_Disambiguation/Article_alerts : because of the way you have set up this RM template, "Birdy" doesn't show on alerts. Also you haven't placed messages on all the other affected pages. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:42, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Just because you don't like the fact that the alerts of WikiProject Disambiguation do not show the RMs does not mean that I should deprive the (more numerous) editors of projects like WP:BIOG WP:MUSICIANS WP:WOMEN etc. of RM notifications. Placing RMs on disambiguation pages reduces discussion participation. SST  flyer  16:16, 27 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Oppose recognizing a teen singer as the primary topic since it is too premature to identify long-term significance, especially with "Birdy" (and "Birdie") having pretty common uses. Even The Telegraph has a recent headline, "Birdy: The most famous singer you've never heard of". A primary topic should be absolutely clear-cut. "Inconveniencing" is a pedantic excuse; readers should not be astonished to see that there are many topics under the given term. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 18:41, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose It's a pretty common word, and some of the other Birdy articles on subjects much older than 1996 don't look like they're of little significance.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 20:18, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose per above - "Birdy" can mean anything and we could be confusing those who don't want the singer, Plus when one searches "Birdy" "Birdy (singer)" is the 2nd result so personally I don't believe we're disadvantaging anyone. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:39, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose per other oppose arguments above. If I heard the word randomly, the singer is not my first thought (opinion, not policy based).-- &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;  &#9743;(ring-ring)  00:38, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose – Why not? Because precision is good and ambiguity is bad, that's why. Dicklyon (talk) 05:35, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per WP:Precision.  InsertCleverPhraseHere  06:06, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The pageview evidence shows that this is far and away the topic readers are searching for, even in such a crowded field. This article has received over |Birdy|Birdy_(Birdy_album)|Birdy_(film)|Birdy_(Peter_Gabriel_album)|Birdy_(bicycle)|Birdy_(Gundam_SEED)|Birdy_(novel)|Birdy_the_Mighty|Birdy_the_Early_Bird 68% of the page views in the last 90 days, with over 178,000 hits. The second most viewed article is Birdy (Birdy album) at 20,767, and the dab page got 16,782 hits, a LOT for a dab page. When the evidence shows that the vast majority of readers are looking for one thing, we shouldn't throw a roadblock int their way.--Cúchullain t/ c 16:08, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The singer's current popularity is not enough to reorganize Wikipedia for her fans' sake. Long-term significance is a factor, too, and the term has been utilized in many different ways, both for general use and in the arts. To frame landing on a disambiguation page as some kind of roadblock is disingenuous. The singer does not dominate all other topics under this term in regards to significance. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 19:08, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, she does. She's been getting 2/3 of the page views for ambiguous topics as far back as the tool will go.|Birdy|Birdy_(Birdy_album)|Birdy_(film)|Birdy_(Peter_Gabriel_album)|Birdy_(bicycle)|Birdy_(Gundam_SEED)|Birdy_(novel)|Birdy_the_Mighty|Birdy_the_Early_Bird And it's not as if she's just suddenly appeared, she's been prominent for over five years. When one subject is this much more prominent than all other subjects combined, sending all readers to a dab page *is* a roadblock. We're sending all readers to a page none of them want, though the evidence suggests a large majority are looking for one topic in particular.--Cúchullain t/ c 19:31, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The singer is much more likely to be looked up than the other topics, but long-term significance is a factor too: "if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term." I do not find that to be the case, and I find it inappropriate to emphasize so much on only usage. If that were the case, we'd be shifting articles around constantly in the short term. Long-term significance is a necessary criterion for long-term arrangement. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 13:41, 25 March 2016 (UTC)


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re: cover artist
I would disagree with Birdy being categorized as a cover artist. While her early hits were covers, the same can be could be said for many artists starting out in their career, or of anyone releasing their albums/songs from Idol type reality shows.-- &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;  &#9743;(ring-ring)  22:45, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Albums "Ornithology", "Vogelfrei", "Nightbird"
Hi there! I've just seen that in the category "Career", sub-category "2016-recent" there's a text talking about three digital albums supposedly released by Birdy digitally without publicity. As only reference a link to a YouTube audio video is available. But discussing with many other Birdy-fans off Wikipedia, we believe this is not her but other musicians called "Birdy". We don't have any proofs for that, but it'd be weird for Birdy and her label to release 36 instrumental songs just a couple of months after the release of her studio album "Beautiful Lies" without any notifications to the publicity. There are no sources at all on the Internet prooving that these albums are from Birdy. I appreciate if any experts could take a look at this text passage. Thanks in advance! Holla 92 (talk) 22:30, 19 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I have removed the paragraph you mentioned. The 3 named "albums" are clearly from a different artist. They can be found on Spotify (Ornithology - Album by Birdy | Spotify, Nightbird - Album by Birdy | Spotify, Vogelfrei - Album by Birdy | Spotify). There's a copyright from 2016, but an earlier date of 2001 on two of the albums. Jasmine would have been 5 years old in 2001. The "Birdy" associated with those 3 albums on Spotify is Birdy | Spotify rather than Birdy | Spotify. Steve With A Guid (talk) 20:57, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC
Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC for the use of radio station/networks' playlists being cited in articles. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Heartfox (talk) 00:00, 29 April 2021 (UTC)