Talk:Birla family


 * Delete. Not notable--81.77.82.202 20:47, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Extremely notable.--Navin gupt (talk) 02:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. Notable. I just received the delete notice and it seems I moved this from 'Birlas' after looking that up a long way back. I am not at all in the habit of randomly looking up Indian families (being neither generally interested in Indian corporations, or politics), so I am sure it is notable. Perhaps having someone flesh out the article should be encouraged, but definitely don't delete it. prat (talk) 00:06, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Moved from Talk:Birla family/Comments
I would like to know why Jonathan D. Parshall has removed the para I added under the Birlas. What was the reasoning? By doing so you are not giving the true facts about Birlas; if you had to remove it there should have been a discussion with me.... Regards.

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Revert changes by User:Forhiddenfacts
Although criticism is acceptable in an encyclopaedia article, the way it is presented here makes the article one-sided and reads as a defamation of the Birla Family. A more comprehensive article will need to be developed before criticism can be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitehat (talk • contribs)


 * I have added a couple of citations that are critical of Birlas. They do not minimize the impact of the Birla family on the economy of India, and I think facts are fairly represented. Malaiya (talk) 22:03, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

POV tag
I have tagged the article because it currently reads just shy of a promotion piece on the family. The text needs to be presented neutrally: not a pro-con piece showing both sides of an "argument", but a neutral piece based on verifiable, factual information. —C.Fred (talk) 16:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Are Birlas Maheshwari?
Yes, without a doubt. It is extremely well known.

Sitush had removed a mention of the fact (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Birla_family&diff=626335162&oldid=609687388).

One can easily find dozens of references, published during different times during the past 100 years, in English and Hindi, that plainly state that. It should not take more than a couple of seconds to find a few.

Incidentally I personally attended a few Marwari weddings in Pilani, Birlas' hometown. Malaiya (talk) 01:51, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Sitush's addition
The editor Sitush (who had earlier objected to identifying Birlas as Maheshwari) has inserted into the text:

"The Birla family origins lie with the Maheshwari caste of Vaishya traders but they were outcaste from their traditional community in 1922 when one of their number, Rameshwar Das Birla, was thought to have broken the caste marriage rules"

This is incorrect and improper.

Rameshwar Das Birla had married his wife from a section of Maheshwaris that an orthodox section of the Maheshwaris did not accept. That caused a split in the Maheshwari community, that lasted for a few years. The Maheshwari Mahasabha eventually decided that the disputed section is proper Maheshwari. A detiled discussion can be seen on p. 75-76 of Utpattikhand of Maheshvari Jati ka Itihas (1940).

In any case, the Birla family obviously existed long before this event.Malaiya (talk) 01:28, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

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The term "Marwari"
The article states:


 * "The Birla family belongs to the Maheshwari subcaste of the Vaishya (trader) caste, and are Marwari since they hail from the Marwad region of present-day Rajasthan."

They are **not** from the Marwad region, which is the Jodhpur region. Pilani is in the Shekhawati region, which in the opposite corner of Rajasthan. The earliest merchant settlers in Bengal did come from Marwad, and thus all the Rajasthani merchant communities came to be called Marwadi. Malaiya (talk) 20:49, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Addition to the family tree
Can someone please add Aryaman Birla and Ananya Birla to the family tree? They are the daughter and son respectively of Kumar Mangalam Birla. I can't figure out how to edit it.

--I am not a Seahorse (talk) 11:36, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Done --$ufyan (talk) 11:16, 12 July 2021 (UTC)