Talk:Birth control sabotage

Balance
Why doesn't this article have any discussion of women who sabotage birth control to produce pregnancies that are unwanted by male partners? I know it's rare, but so is men sabotaging birth control to produce pregnancies unwanted by female partners. JCDenton2052 (talk) 01:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I changed it to a gender-neutral tone, is female denial of men's contraceptive rights well-documented enough that someone can find a source? Being gender neutral, the article should stand, but external links/sources are a good rebuttal to someone saying "oh, females never sabotage birth control when males don't want to reproduce."-Unregistered User, 01:21 10 August 2008


 * I suspect the concept you mention may also be covered in some other articles, have found some similar items, e.g. Paternity fraud. There is nothing about the article as it stands now that obviously indicates which gender is doing the sabotage.  Zodon (talk) 07:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * This topic was revisited by a recent addition to the article. I removed the revision because some of the claims were dubious, it lacked citations and I couldn't find any references to verify it.   However some more reading suggests that Contraceptive fraud, a related but distinct concept, may be apropos. NOTE: TORT LAW: Tort Liability when Fraudulent Misrepresentation Regarding Birth Control ... I am not sure if that topic is already covered within another article on Wikipedia.


 * If it isn't already covered, we might consider where best to add coverage. (In related fraud topic, or possibly here.)  I am not sure there is enough source material to support a separate article.  Zodon (talk) 21:20, 16 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Either way, the current state of the article is pretty gender-biased, and the title of the article really just encourages it to remain that way. Maybe it ought to be renamed Contraceptive fraud, with sabotage for when the person using the contraception is not aware that it has been, well, sabotaged; being pressured to not use it at all isn't sabotage at all, and sabotaging it would be a form of fraud anyway. 71.71.106.75 (talk) 16:59, 25 December 2010 (UTC)


 * The division is too strict. According to the article, there are only two cases of birth control sabotage: either verbal/emotional pressure or violence. What about a male/female who secretly placing pinholes in the tip of condoms? Or a female who lies to her partner about getting contracteptive pills while she doesn't? This doesn't fall into any category. --Urod (talk) 23:54, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Besides, it is not true that the birth control sabotage is always directed against sex partner. I know a case when female pierced her ex male's condoms as a revenge for leaving her. Isn't this a birth control sabotage? --Urod (talk) 23:54, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It doesn't say that those are the only cases - just that some studies identified these two classes. The pinhole would appear to be behavioral sabotage.  Zodon (talk) 08:28, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I removed the section refering to the report. Firstly the report applies only to a very narrow group of Americans i.e poor, black, teen mothers from Chicago. Secondly the article previously referenced that the article "identified two main classes of the phenomenon" this is incorrect the study only tested for these two "classes" it identified nothing about what forms of BCS was most common. What the report really says (in relation to BCS) is there is a strong correlation between verbal and physical coercion of birth control use and demostic violence, which somewhat goes without saying. Hence I chucked it. Also it wasn't very rigorous........

--122.57.81.29 (talk) 12:51, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

A recent edit suggested that the gender neutral language in the lead may not sufficiently clearly indicate that either partner or a third party can engage in sabotage. So I made that explicit. I also added a mention of contraceptive fraud, since it is related. Zodon (talk) 21:35, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Birth sabotage or Paternity fraud?
A work of fiction (TV series Glass home, season 2, produced by and aired on bTV, Bulgaria, depicts the following: a male character, himself infertile since puberty because of mumps, tricked his wife that she was barren. In an in vitro procedure he used his brother's semen to fertilize her. He forged all documents regarding the sperm donor as well. The truth was revealed 17 years later. I am not sure if this action would qualify as a birth sabotage or a paternity fraud or both (having as victims both the mother and the true father) or may be another kind of forgery. What is you opinion? Link: http://www.btv.bg/seriali/glass-home/

Gazibara (talk) 19:52, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Legal Status
It would be very interesting if someone could include information about the legality of this practice and how it relates to the general concept of fraud or duress. I don't currently have the time for the legal research, but I may get to it if no one else has the information on hand. 66.157.44.200 (talk) 09:44, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Article edit
This Wikipedia article is severely lacking in information concerning birth control sabotage and the general topic of reproductive coercion. I believe that this page should be reformatted to be called the general idea of reproductive coercion with birth control sabotage as a topic, along with pregnancy pressure and pregnancy coercion. The way the Wikipedia article is now does not highlight how there are other forms of reproductive coercion beyond the actual tampering with birth control. I will also expand on its role in domestic violence. If anyone in the community has any input, ideas, or resources that they would deem useful to my planned expansion, please leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! Rachelpop- (talk) 15:39, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The page move you propose seems reasonable. Good luck with your expansion. Khazar2 (talk) 20:52, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

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