Talk:Black Adam

He should never have forgotten the thunder
As the "anti-Captain Marvel", Black Adam is very probably the model for Alan Moore's "anti-Miracleman", Johnny Bates. In fact, Bates is defeated only because, at the height of his triumph, he accidently speaks the name of his nemesis and suffers a fate reminiscent of that which destroyed the original (Fawcett) Black Adam.

Powers
One thing I've never really understood is Black Adam's powers. I understand how he got them -- granted to him by the wizard Shazam -- but I don't understand how he's kept them. In The Power of Shazam! series that ran in the 90's, Shazam made a point, on several occaisions that his power was finite. I recall this most notably when Mary and Billy want to grant some of their powers to Freddy after Freddy is badly hurt by Captain Nazi.

So how, then, does Black Adam retain superpowers after Shazam grants them to someone else? And why, unlike the Marvel family, don't his abilities count toward the finite source?

The only thing I can think of is that for Black Adam, "SHAZAM" entails a different set of gods (therefore a different source), but to the best of my knowledge that explanation isn't substantiated in the comic. It seems to me that Black Adam and Captain Marvel both draw their abilities from the same source with no penalty. -- Broken Arms Gordon 13:58, 29 September 2005 (UTC)


 * IIRC early in the Power of Shazam series he has his powers restored by Blaze. It happens off-panel, so anyone is free to fill the details.  Maybe it is somehow Blaze instead of Shazam (who, I read, has been revelead to be her father) who empowers Adam. Luis Dantas 22:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Exactly how strong is he? Class 100? same as Cap. Marvel?
 * If you ask me, DC's power levels make even less sense than Marvel's. But Black Adam has been known to fight Captain Marvel and Superman one-on-one, so he must be a close match for either. Luis Dantas 22:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I presume that Black Adam is in the same class as Superman, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman and all of the other strongest heroes. Allegedly, his powers are meant to be greater than those of Captain Marvel because they are never shared out with the rest of the Marvel Family. Given that Adam draws his powers from a different set of benefactors, it is presumable that his capabilities are derived from a portion of Shazam's power seperate to that of the Marvel Family. -Sh@z@m

I'd like to see a citation for Black Adam's clarvoiant powers; I don't recall any examples of this from the comics. Similarly, if his top speed has been established, it should be cited; otherwise it should be sufficient to say "super-speed" in the ambiguous way his writers do. 66.223.58.254 23:13, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Maybe not the best place to ask, but how likely is it that Black Adam still has his powers? In Countdown, it seems that Mary Marvel now has "all of his powers," so does this mean that Black Adam is a powerless, normal human for the moment? Lord Shaz 21:23, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Theo Adam - operatic superstar
It's outrageous that "Theo Adam" gets directed to this ridiculous article. Theo Adam (born 1926) is a great opera singer who deserves his own article.

http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Bio/Adam-Theo.htm

http://www.iclassics.com/artistBio?contentId=1789

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_Adam

http://www.jenskleemann.de/wissen/bildung/wikipedia/t/th/theo_adam.html

Fusspot 20:18, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Feel free to change it. --DrBat 22:10, 24 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Poor li'l opera buff got their sensabilities offended. Awwwww.  :) CovenantD 22:23, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Theo Adam is also the civilian name of Black Adam. That was never meant as a slight against the opera singer. One would think that actually building an article for him (which I intend to do albeit as a stub) is far more respectful for him than just pretending that we do not know Black Adam's name. Luis Dantas 21:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

when Black Adam said "Shazam" in 52 and turned, he had the looked like teth adam not theo adam so i wonder when that changed. maybe he is theo adam no more. just a thought. JayDub 14:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Khandaq/Kahndaq
I don't know if putting the h after the first a is a misspelling. In the first issue of 52, the sign on the embassy distinctly said "KAHNDAQ"... Coyote42 21:33, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It's spelled Kahndaq pretty consistently throughout JSA as well. I'm changing it here and in other articles as well. --Patrick T. Wynne 20:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I may have made the error elsewhere, after checking this article to be sure. --Chris Griswold 07:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I've seen both. It should matter since it's the anglican version of a fictitious Arabic word.

Extraneous pic:


Okay, folks, this pic to the right here needs to stay out of the article. I know some fanboy(s) out there think(s) that it's, "like, so kewl" to see Black Adam snap a woman's neck with his bare hands...but the image (a) serves no educational purpose in the context of this article and (b) doesn't have a place to neatly fit besides. Leave it out and let it stay out: this article is more than sufficiently illustrated as it is. --FuriousFreddy 07:35, 20 May 2006

Section expansion.
Well, I can see this article is quite large and people want to keep it at a reasonable size. However, there's such a thing as over summarization. 52 (comics) is a big thing and to simply cut out so much data from BA's appearances for the sake of a "short section" will be all for nought. I recommend an article be made for his appearances in 52 and linked back here. The summarization is reaching a point of inaccurately displaying information. With another article, shortness nuts can do what they like here, but the reader will still have a better source to turn to. Also, note the other character actuals with "52" sections. ACS (Wikipedian) 18:18, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

An entire article that would basically dup information found here and in the 52 article? I don't think it's necessary. Just because people want to include more than summary info is no reason to give them an article with which to play. Where would it end? CovenantD 18:52, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't put it that way. I just don't think "Black Adam currently appears as a featured character in DC's weekly 52 comic book. Depicted as the violent protector of the nation of Khandaq, Adam has killed several super-villians in public and on telelvision to demonstrate his views. As a result, he is distrusted by several of the superheroes he claims a place beside, including Power Girl and Green Lanterns John Stewart and Hal Jordan.

Recently, Black Adam has created a coalition, based on metahumans from Iran, Uzbekistan, China, and Pakistan, against the perceived metahuman supremacy of the United States of America. He seems confident that Russia will soon accept his alliance too." is an accurate discription of the events. It reaks of bias and infers inaccyrate information. Whatev. ACS (Wikipedian) 19:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * How is it biased? Why would this section need to be large? Because it is current? --Chris Griswold 19:53, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Namor/Black Adam
Three other editors have separately reverted your recurring uncited comparison of the two characters. Your addition is WP:POV and WP:OR. Please discontinue this disallowed edit. Thanks. -- Tenebrae 17:35, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Clairvoyance
Anybody have a recolection of BA having this power? It's in tne table of gods, but I can't remember an instance of it. CovenantD 02:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I can't think of a single occurance of it. Definately not enough to warrant his inclusion in a catagory for precogs.  -mordicai. 13:28, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Speculative
Who will surely use it to ruin the Black Marvel's reputations. I know that it's totally obvious but isn't this speculation? I don't think Amanda Waller has said point blank that she plans to ruin their reputation (and I also don't think Waller's intentions have been revealed by an official source either). So technically, speculation?Jupiterzguy 02:09, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Cap adam.jpg
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Strongest man in DC Universe?
Not sure about this. Seeing as Wonder Woman is mentioned, should this not be strongest person? Also, are there not stronger villains (such as perhaps Darkseid)? Superman is regularly depicted as the strongest DC hero, but not stronger than Darkseid.Nda98 15:14, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

"I'm sorry. So sorry."
Under the subheading for Countdown, the article says that Captain Marvel changed Black Adam's magic word to "sorry." Does anybody have a reference for it? I've read Countdown #47, but nothing in that gave me the impression that his new magic word is "sorry." Ccm043 22:45, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it was most explicite in the "Powers and Abilities" section, and implied in the Countdown section. Ccm043 22:47, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Nothing more than fan boy fluff.Wrestlinglover420 03:27, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That describes the entire article. Drmies (talk) 16:24, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Countdown 1
Did anyone read this.

Update article.

89.210.121.141 (talk) 08:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Captain Marvel's name isn't Shazam - That's on the cover of the Comic Book!
Seriously, this article gets it wrong quickly. The title of the book had to be changed from Captain Marvel "to stop confusion in the market place" aka confuse children into buying a DC Comic and thinking it is a Marvel Comic because "Marvel" is on the cover. Though the Title was changed to include the term Shazam instead of Captain Marvel Since people kmew that Billy says "Shazam" to turn into Captain Marvel (even Gomer Pyle knows the term "Shazam"), it was a logical choice. But they characters name wasn't change inside the book. In fact Shazam is the name of the Wizard that give Captain Marvel and the Marvel Family their powers. I think there must have been someone that thought that they knew what they were talking about that went around changing these entries, but they are incorrect as far as I know. Captain Marvel Was never called Shazam in DC Comic. I have plenty of books with Captain Marvel in them called Captain Marvel. I want to see a citation showing in what comics he was called "Shazam" if it is true. I see no fact to back up that he ever was called "Shazam" in DC Comics. [edit] I see references to Captain Marvel being called Shazam in the NEW 52, that may be the case, but I am talking about before that in DC Comics after the Marvel law suit. I don't believe that it was ever changed inside of the DC Comics until the New 52 titles came out. So the wording of when the character name was "changed" is misleading in this article.

Orphaned references in Black Adam
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Black Adam's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "BlackAdamRelease": From DC Extended Universe:  From Shazam! (film):  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 12:03, 1 August 2020 (UTC)