Talk:Black American Sign Language/Archive 1

Capitalization
, Thank you for the copy-editing! I have recapitalized instances of "Black" and "White" per the APA style guidelines which is the style for the rest of the article. I have also recapitalized some instances of "Deaf" to reflect the style used in the literature and the Deaf community where "deaf" denotes a physically deaf person while "Deaf" denotes any person who is culturally Deaf but may or may not be physically deaf. Wugapodes (talk) 20:37, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * , don't you hate it when well-meaning editors mess things up! I am sorry for the extra work this has caused.  I don't know the APA style guidelines, and I am really not sure whether they should take precedence over Wikipedia's own Manual of Style here. I agree there could be a good case to treat the "culturally deaf" as described in the linked article.  But Manual of Style/Capital letters does not make any allowance for capitalizing terms like black or white. So we seem to have a difference between the two styles - what is your basis for using the APA style instead of Wikipedia's style in this case?--Gronk Oz (talk) 02:51, 5 April 2015 (UTC)


 * You didn't mess things up, there were a few cases where I was inconsistent so this was actually a chance to fix those too; plus find and replace is my friend. The rational given by the APA Style is that–similar to say Gaelic, Armenian, or more pertinent, African-American and Caucasian–Black and White denote ethnicities and are thus proper nouns which ought to be capitalized. Other manuals of style like the AP prohibit it, however the APA requires it to increase precision in writing and reduce the bias implicit in language, namely that what is referred to is the culture and ethnicity of the group, not the color of their skin. I find this compelling because one can be culturally Black or culturally White without actually being "black" or "white", and that is actually an important issue for this article as Black Deaf signers of BSV do not have to be African-American (or even physically deaf), in the same way that speakers of African-American English need not be African-American, but simply  enculturated into that specific language. In scholarly publications, most importantly those cited in this article, the terms are capitalized because they use the APA style. I don't see this as in conflict with Wikipedia MOS because WMOS doesn't explicitly forbid capitalization of Black and White and seems to condone the capitalization of ethnic groups derived from words typically given lowercase (see MOS:CAPS: "Do not capitalize terms denoting types of religious or mythical beings such as angel, fairy or deva.[...]An exception is made when such terms are used to denote ethnicities in fantasy fiction, in which case they are capitalized if the source capitalizes them." If we extend this rational outside the world of fantasy beings to actual ethnic groups, it could apply here). Wugapodes (talk) 14:14, 5 April 2015 (UTC)


 * - okay, let's leave it as is. I still think it's inconsistent with other articles and the MoS, but I don't have any particular axe to grind and you have enunciated the reasons well in case the question comes up again.

FA
Whoops, edited before talking on an FA. Hope my edits are constructive rather than otherwise! Great article! valereee (talk) 12:26, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Just because it's an FA doesn't mean you can't be bold! Thanks for the edits. Wugapodes (talk) 04:45, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

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