Talk:Black Eyed Peas/Archive 4

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Please correct typo
In the introduction: "I Gotta Feeling" became the first single to sell more than one million ownloads in the United Kingdom.[3]

Lydia Lucy
Lydia Lucy should not be listed as a member of The Black Eyed Peas. Currently the page lists her in the Blue Box on the top right of the page and then in the initial article is says that in 2016 she will become a member. She recently performed with the current members at an event in London, a one time event, and is not a member. Veritasbyheart (talk)

One Love Manchester
They will be in One Love Manchester charity event. Could you add it? EDigen (talk) 10:47, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2017, Fergie departure
Fix Fergie's departure. A BEP executive confirmed that Fergie is still in the group, but is taking a hiatus from the group to focus on her solo career http://www.vibe.com/2017/06/fergie-leaves-black-eyed-peas-solo-album/ 96.19.10.68 (talk) 18:56, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ Added source to article. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:57, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

One Love Manchester
Black Eyed Peas performed Where Is The Love with Ariana Grande singing in Fergie's place at the One Love Manchester concert on June 4, 2017. This should be added somewhere in the article, either in 'Charity Events' or '2015–present: 20th anniversary, new projects' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.165.137.66 (talk • contribs) 08:41, June 11, 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't doubt that they did. However, unless there was something particularly noteworthy about that one performance (as judged by substantial discussion in independent reliable sources), we probably shouldn't include it. With a little bit of research, we could easily come up with a list of hundreds of performances by the band: full concerts, festivals, talk show appearances, SNL etc. Most of these performances are not a significant part of the band's history and listing them would only clog the article.


 * On rare occasions (I'm thinking Sinéad_O'Connor on SNL, The Beatles on The_Ed_Sullivan_Show and such) the performances are significant. In such cases, coverage in independent reliable sources confirm this. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 16:05, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Change
I changed "Pre fame" to "Prior to Mainstream Success." It's elitist to suggest they had no "fame" before Elephunk. Andrewdoane 19:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Nicole was never with the group...huge misinformation Krissymom2 (talk) 02:13, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Page move &rarr; The Black Eyed Peas
I have moved the page to The Black Eyed Peas. This appears to be very definitely their current styling, even though they started as just Black Eyed Peas. All albums and singles since the release of Elephunk have displayed "The Black Eyed Peas", as does their website. The only current places I can see an absence of "The" in official blurb is when using the initialism "BEP" or in the actual URL of their site — but that's a common convention for URLs (eg www.guardian.co.uk, www.independent.co.uk).

I hope this is now pretty clear in the article itself, but I don't think it's worth dwelling on too much. --KJBracey 17:45, 23 December 2005 (UTC)


 * While the page is now called The Black Eyed Peas, everywhere in the article itself, including the first line of the introduction, the band is referred to as Black Eyed Peas. Either the page should be moved back, or appropriate thes added. I agree with the page move for the reasons given above (the band have changed their album labeling) so I am proposing to add the thes, any thoughts? Grumpyyoungman01 06:58, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It looks like someone's gone through and changed (almost) every reference to "The Black Eyed Peas" to "Black Eyed Peas", without much thought. If you check the history to see my version from December 2005, you'll see that I was making it quite clear that they started without the "The", and I had a small note on Elephunk that they gained "The" as well as Fergie. --KJBracey 07:07, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Nicole scherzinger was never with the group..Fergie was — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krissymom2 (talk • contribs) 02:20, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Former members
The names of the former members should be included in the article's infobox. I didn't read the article, so will anyone with knowledge on this matter add the names? ← A NAS  Talk? 22:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

The people that is posting on black eyed peas article don't care about this, the just care to talk about post fergie BEP. Look at the article there are not so much information about the 2 first albums, that main picture of the of the article was before a picture just one member and fergie on the picture. On bottom of the page see that the almost all the olders singles don't have a article. There are more things like this.

I disagree. I came here specifically to see the former members and it's not on here. Someone with that info should post it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.167.41.130 (talk) 19:30, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Nicole scherzinger was never a member of BEP please remove her name, and replace with fergie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krissymom2 (talk • contribs) 02:25, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Fergie leaving?
In the infobox, it says that Fergie was in the Black Eyed Peas from 2001 to 2010. But the other current members are all listed as "present" instead of "2010". Is that a mistake in the article or is there unlisted info on her leaving the group? Xij29y6 (talk) 01:25, 8 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Shes left dawg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.144.109 (talk) 19:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC)


 * You seem to have replied to a comment from 7 years ago without a source to support your claim. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 19:58, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2018
Can somebody please add the World Music Awards winners please? 172.221.50.147 (talk) 19:52, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 21:00, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2018
On the 29th of September 2018, Black Eyed Peas played at the AFL Grand Final in Melbourne, Australia - Source: https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/australia-reacts-to-black-eyed-peas-afl-grand-final-entertainment/news-story/498a3e35f624798eae1afae142d9aa29 The performance was critically received overall as mediocre due to technical issues, and many fans were disappointed that Fergie did not attend the performance.124.188.40.60 (talk) 03:49, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  Spintendo   13:27, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2018
Under the 2015-present section, the new version of The Black Eyed Peas' song, "Where Is The Love?", is titled "#WHERESTHELOVE", not "Where Is The Love?" - Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsRMoWYGLNA You may want to add that the song and accompanying video specifically features artists such as Jessie J, Justin Timberlake, DJ Khaled, and others 144.136.168.18 (talk) 11:38, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the edit request. Here are my responses:


 * I'm not sure about the first part of the request. Yes, it's styled that way, but if Where Is The Love? is the more common title it may be better to use that instead. I'll leave that part of the request to someone who is more familiar with the topic and/or has a stronger opinion than I do.
 * Done the second part; that is, I've mentioned the specific artists you mentioned. In the future, when making edit requests, it's a good idea to make sure that all parts of them are supported by a reliable source; in this case, I've added this source which supports that Jessie J, Justin Timberlake, and DJ Khaled were featured in the video.


 * I haven't marked this as answered as I would like to see what other users may think about the first part of the request. Thanks again for the suggestions! Cheers, -- SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 15:56, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: 's edits should suffice, we can't embed music videos due to copyright and I'm not sure people would support that anyway.   SITH   (talk)   17:23, 11 January 2019 (UTC)


 * If I'm reading 144.136.168.18's post correctly, I believe that they are requesting for "Where Is The Love?" to be changed to "#WHERESTHELOVE" in the article, not embed any kind of YouTube video.-- SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 21:11, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2020
Sierra Swan was not a member, she was a featured vocalist on one song, "Fallin' Up" from Behind the Front in 1998. 70.20.18.167 (talk) 14:28, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting question.svg Question: Do you have any reliable sources to support this edit request? &#123;&#123;replyto&#125;&#125; Can I Log In's (talk) page 23:03, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Nothing in the literature describes her as a member of the band. I removed her. Binksternet (talk) 23:30, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2020
Change the first sentence: "Black Eyed Peas (also known as The Black Eyed Peas) is an American musical group, consisting of rappers will.i.am, apl.de.ap, and Taboo" to "Black Eyed Peas (also known as The Black Eyed Peas) is an American musical group, consisting of rappers will.i.am, apl.de.ap, and Taboo and vocalist J Rey Soul" Damastalex (talk) 06:04, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Although J Rey Soul is listed in the infobox and in the "Members" section as a member, this appears to depend on a cite in the "2015–present: Fergie's departure and Masters of the Sun". That cite only says that  Jessica Reynoso (aka J Rey Soul) "...seems to be a permanent fixture in the group." Not a very definitive statement of full membership. Please provide reliable sources that support her actual membership. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 18 June 2020

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Consensus to move pages. (non-admin closure) —  Young Forever (talk)   15:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

The Black Eyed Peas → Black Eyed Peas – The group has been referred to as both "Black Eyed Peas" and "The Black Eyed Peas" over the course over their career. "The" was added in 2003 and was dropped in 2016. Apple Music, Spotify, Tidal and their official website all use "Black Eyed Peas". — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 14:53, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This would also apply to the following pages: The Black Eyed Peas discography, List of awards and nominations received by The Black Eyed Peas, Karma (The Black Eyed Peas song), Weekends (The Black Eyed Peas song), Shut Up (The Black Eyed Peas song), Hey Mama (The Black Eyed Peas song), Monkey Business (The Black Eyed Peas album), Missing You (The Black Eyed Peas song), The Beginning (The Black Eyed Peas album), Just Can't Get Enough (The Black Eyed Peas song), Don't Stop the Party (The Black Eyed Peas song) and Mamacita (The Black Eyed Peas, Ozuna and J Rey Soul song). — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 16:20, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Support - unless WP:THE is used almost universally, it should be dropped. And not even the band's website or social media use "The". -- Netoholic @ 15:46, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per everything above. -2pou (talk) 16:14, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support all per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:47, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support makes sense when they don't use "the" anymore plus it's more WP:CONCISE. For the sake of consistency, those other pages listed should also be moved to reflect this change. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 20:44, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support as all evidence points to this being the correct change. -Bl4kers (talk) 23:31, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support, no need for the, shorter without.--Bob not snob (talk) 08:26, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 August 2020
typo fix

change: bar:Reynoso from:19/02/2018 till:0101/2019 color:vocals to: bar:Reynoso from:19/02/2018 till:01/01/2019 color:vocals 109.53.20.86 (talk) 11:28, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

typo fix

Thanks for pointing out my mistake,I have corrected it now DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 12:43, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Can we put Status as a vandalizer?
They keep removing J. Rey Soul as a member when the band itself has said she is, she has said she is, and numerous people have readded her. They are the only one removing despite people posting sources. They keep pointing to an article over a year old to justify it when newer articles say she is. This is at this point editing and putting in false information. I don't know if its a thing about Fergie leaving but come on, recognize her. Sneakycrown (talk) 21:05, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Vandalism where? I provided a source from the past week where it says she's a "semi official" member of the group. An interviewer asks them if she's a part of the group (I can't post the link because it's from YouTube, but the video is called "Is JESSICA REYNOSO Officially Part Of BLACK EYED PEAS?") and Will said "she's a part of the family". They also refer to Nicole Scherzinger as "part of the family", so does that make her a member too? She's listed as a featured artist on their album, not featured on their artwork, their Instagram bio only mentions the three of them "@iamwill | @taboo | @apldeap". — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 11:54, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

She's credited as "Featuring" on two tracks, but she supposedly has vocals on 5 other tracks on Translation where she doesn't have a feature credit at all, including one of their singles, "FEEL THE BEAT." - K-popguardian (talk) 20:03, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

The sources do confirm she is a semi member but it is rather unusual that on the new album she comes up as a featuring on some tracks if she is a member this would not happen. I guess we have not been told that she has been dropped as a semi member so I think we should leave it be for now. DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 10:28, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Unnecessary addition to write that she is the band member when she does not appear on any of these sites and there is not even any mention of her in the band.   Why just add? Indeed she is also on the last album recorded inside a guest in songs not as a singer some of them. King G.A (talk) 21:03, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes the sources you gave do not list J.Rey Soul as a member but as she was actually only introduced as a semi member maybe that's the reason why she appears to have never been credited as a band member. DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 22:33, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

You just spammed the band's instagram 3 times...Also one of the latests posts is about them congratulating "their very own J. Rey Soul!" - K-popguardian (talk) 21:34, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

She is not yet listed as a band member so why is she listed here? The fact that they greeted her does not mean that she is part of the band. You add information without any source on behalf of the composition. King G.A (talk) 04:36, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

There are plenty of sources, I literally have a source next to her name that confirms she's a member. Again, wait for further discussion before making a change. We've all used reliable sources from journalists and interviews, and your "evidence" is 3 links to their instagram page. - K-popguardian (talk) 05:35, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

My more reliable sources are the official pages of the band. Their official website and latest album do not even include it in their photo or caption. She appears like any guest artist on albums. King G.A (talk) 05:40, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Kim Hill also appeared in a similar fashion, with featuring credits on some, not on others, and not even on the album covers, but even today she is regarded as an official member of Black Eyed Peas. J. Rey Soul is treated in a similar fashion. - K-popguardian (talk) 15:29, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't consider profiles to social media or random youtube videos to be reliable sources of any news unless it's outright stated in the Black Eyed Peas profiles that "J. Rey Soul is not a member." There are more reliable sources where she's been referred to as a member, and even interviews where she is mentioned to the Peas as their newest member, which they don't dispute when referred to. Come back when you have a real reliable form of evidence. From well known sources of music news, and not just social media pages. - K-popguardian (talk) 15:31, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Oops this is a joke..they don't mention it as a band member you just went to war because you want to be right. You see for yourself that they do not confirm this and she herself does not write that she is officially in the lineup but a guest and that's it. Think if she was from the band why should they not even post an official photo of themselves? Or a cover? Or on social media? Nicole for them too, the band company, so will we add her? King G.A (talk) 17:13, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

"War" lol. This is a Wikipedia page my gosh. This isn't some kind of contest, this is an article on a website that reports facts, and you're acting all intense like you're on a Reddit forum. Just take deep breaths. Calm down. Drink some water. And when you come back, provide actually reliable sources that we can use instead of going insane and attacking me. - K-popguardian (talk) 18:52, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

I'd be happy if you could explain it to him. King G.A (talk) 13:17, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 November 2020 - typo correction
simple typo correction

In the first sentence of the second paragraph of the "Charity Events" section, change: "in early 2011, the group spent a short film to the whole country of Japan" to "in early 2011, the group sent a short film to the whole country of Japan" Miej (talk) 16:59, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've reworded the entire sentence as the wording was awkward. ◢  Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 12:44, 1 December 2020 (UTC)