Talk:Black Guerrilla Family

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Black Guerilla Family Pirus
i have heard that most of the black guerrilla family memebers upon relese have become under the pirus in los angles due to the on going war with the mexican mafia.the black guerrillas territory is only in prison but once released most members joined under the pirus street gang being called black guerrilla famaliy pirus who help along the pirus and the bloods fight the mexican mafia.it is un clear that because of this if there has been any beef from allies the crips who are also allies to the black guerrilla famaliy but also fight the mexican mafiain los angles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthizz69 (talk • contribs) 15:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

New up to date info
I suggest we try and find things about that's up to date —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.173.73 (talk) 08:04, 22 May 2010 (UTC) It is incorrect to state that many members of the BGF join the Pirus upon relase from prison.The BGf is a political/military entity which recruits from all groups necessary to carry forty its objective,Many of the Pirus/Crips that has joined the rank & file fall back to the vice of their original gangs due to lack of discipline or committment,& often times use the name & rep of the BGF to futher their interest —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.55.248 (talk) 22:26, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Philosophy and Goals
I cleaned up that section a little--creating full sentences and such. I don't know how accurate it is, so I didn't actually change anything except to eliminate one clearly irrelevant statement.Biasedbulldog (talk) 16:22, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Why was the BGF current philosophy and goals of Blakc power, Black Nationalism,  Black Liberation removed Tim Wilson 210 (talk) 00:35, 4 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Because it is poorly sourced - the referenced Baltimore Sun article doesn't mention any of this. If you are using the Black Book as a reference, you must credit as the source, and you must be careful in using a primary source like that, since the edits you and another account have been inserting have carried a non-neutral point of view.  Acroterion   (talk)   00:56, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Ismaaiyl Brinsley
News media accounts of today's double murder of two NYPD police officers claim that the shooter was a member of the BGF. Early accounts are often wrong but it's worth setting up a placeholder in talk for updating the article: http://www.nydailynews.com/cops-shot-brooklyn-sources-article-1.2051941?evdb http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/20/ismaaiyl-brinsley-nypd-black-guerilla-family_n_6361324.html www.infowars.com/nypd-declares-wartime-after-suspected-marxist-black-guerrilla-family-member-executes-cops/ infowars.com is fringe, does not meet our sourcing guidelines and should not be used

TMLutas (talk) 06:47, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

This whole piece needs major editing
The use of 'gang" when referring to the original BGF founded by George Jackson while incarcerated rather than inmate organization, is part of a theme promoted by corrections officials - the fact that there may be other groups in prisons across the US who have taken up that name (similar to the "New" Black Panther Party, which is not related to the original) should not be a rationale for defining what was formed then, as what is now. Particularly because with lurid press coverage of the recent shooting of two NYC police by a deranged man who shot his girlfriend, killed two police and then himself has nothing to do with George Jackson, Geronimo Pratt etc.

I worked with the legal defense team for the Soledad Brothers, and the San Quentin Six, corresponded with them, and find some of the sources here highly questionable.

DeeOlive (talk) 09:03, 22 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Professor Oliver, I have mentioned your concerns in Neutral point of view/Noticeboard. - Location (talk) 18:08, 22 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Not sure The usual practice is to use the language of the sources cited. If the sources are troublesome then list the source here, say why it should not be used and what would fix the problem.
 * Note that while personal experience is useful, for quality control, Wikipedia only covers what has been published. For information to be added, it must be followed with a citation to a published source.  Blue Rasberry   (talk)  19:12, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

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