Talk:Black Hole Sun

Best song of the nineties
Quite possibly the best song of the nineties. Certainly the best music video.

Does anyone have any ideas of single sales?

Lyrics
Can someone post the lyrics to this song or would that just be overkill?


 * That would be illegal; it's copyright infringement to post lyrics. -- LGagnon 02:44, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * posting lyrics in ot aginst copyright 12.207.127.76 02:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, it is. See Copyrights -- LGagnon 03:45, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No, ti isn't. it says noting about that. 12.207.127.76 14:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


 * If you don't believe me, ask an admin. I guarantee you they'll tell you it's illegal. -- LGagnon 20:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Why don't you ask an admin?12.207.127.76 21:51, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
 * 12.207.127.76, shut up.


 * hey, he has a point (12.207.127.76), you should contact the admin before using it in an argument, as tgus argument stands for unverified reasoning, and need to verify before arguing and anyone taking you seriously. Lemme throw this in: Why is there hundreds of lyric sites with the song. Heres an example site (http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/soundgarden/superunknown.html#7). At the very end, there is a copyright statement: All lyrics are the property and copyright of their owners. All lyrics provided for educational purposes only.Therefore, If there is a specific copyright that can be given, and it may very well be this one above, it should not be illegal, hence it is for educational pourposes only. It WOULD be illegal if it was used any way else, such as commercial. So, hey, lighten up, and take this copyright statement to the admin and ask if it is allright, or what the appropriate copyright statement usage would be, or if its allright for wikipedia at all.

Funny Video
The music video for this song is pretty funny, yet weird. The people are always smiling while Soundgarden's predicting the end of the world. They still smile even though they are getting ripped apart...the famous scene has to be where the girl is eating ice cream while the Barbie is being cooked on the grill. Gives new meaning to the term "fire up the Barbie". -- User:A&MFan


 * This isn't a discussion forum. Talk pages are for assisting with editing. -- LGagnon 16:04, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

You miserable fascist!
 * You miserable failure —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.76.236.58 (talk) 14:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

The discussion became a great deal more after the 911 5th anniversary happened, at least here, Which is all correct on the page I just saw- this one isn't a match and is lacking a comment from Sept. 14, 2006. Curious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.152.249.253 (talk) 18:19, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Lyrics
How can the lyrics refer to Cobain...if the song was released before his death? Yeah, I deleted that part.

Why can't they reference K.C.; one the single was release well after his death, And even if it wasn't why can't they reference K.C. while he was alive, he was repected even while living.

Relation to Here Comes The Sun
Is it just me, or does the song generally sound like the song, "Here Comes the Sun" by the Beatles? I don't know, if anyone knows anything about the relationship between the two songs, could they put it on the page?

Impossible
The Sun is not large enough to become a black hole. 4.235.132.151 15:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Who gives a fuck you also can't see a "rainbow in the dark"


 * In an not so impolite way, he is right.Its a figurative title, not a scientific one. I appreciate your scientific knolidge, but im sure that songwriters using poetry and other literary methods do not. Now, on a scientific level, it may not be OUR sun, but A sun, and if that sun is big enough, therefore it could possibly be a black hole later on. So, If your looking at things without a poetic way and figurative speach, it could be another sun.

Cobain
Is it necessary to tell when the single was released relative to Kurt Cobain's death? Suffocation90 03:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

The death of The Mighty K.C. was relevent because his suicide cause a great depression in the grunge community which could explain the bleak vocals and lyrics plus his death cause much more recognition for much of the other musicians around Seattle.

The song was most likely written BEFORE Kurt Cobain dying, since at the release of a single, the song has usually existed for a while. (ie: Even after an album is recorded it still takes a few months before singles or the album itself are released)

Volunteer Park (Seattle) Sculpture
Osamu Noguchi's Black Hole Sun Can someone confirm or deny that the title was inspired by this well-known Seattle sculpture? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Subterrane (talk • contribs) 14:43, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Second version of the music video
I did a search on YouTube and was only able to find one version of the video that seems incomplete/unfinished and that has a VH1 tag on it. That link in German shows frames from a second version of the video with enhanced special effects. The prevalence of the older version of the video and the difficulty in locating the newer version seems potentially significant. Did they ever release the second version on VHS or DVD? Was it banned? I think more needs to be said about it and perhaps links added to show the different versions. Best, -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 03:59, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Possible Doctor Who references
There is a line in the article saying that there are references to Doctor Who in the video, is there any more information on that? 433 (talk) 14:45, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Aww, I worked hard on that lyrical meaning!
I'm not trying to be inpolite or something, but I'm just wondering why someone deleted by explanation behind the (somewhat enigmatic) lyrics. The meaning fits perfectly into several lines - The narrator's frustration about the whole plain dirtiness and social corruption of the world makes him wish the sun would collapse into a black hole and suck up the whole Earth with its inhabitants into nothingness to end this miserable chaos. Yes, I KNOW Chris Cornell stated in a VH1 interview that he actually didn't know what the song was about - But that could just be an affection of amnesia, or something! A Powerful Weakness (talk) 16:47, 10 January 2008 (UTC) A Powerful Weakness

Video cast
Does anyone know the name of the model that was by the pool under the heat lamp? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.173.8.96 (talk) 20:58, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

The band Black Hole Sun,who is in it and when was Time to wonder written,I wonder.
Theres a ban d by the name Black Hole Sun with many compilation albums.who what where when?

Did they miss to ban the song and the video?
Doom the game has the difficulty degree "Ultra Violence". And it was banned by the BPJS (harmful to youth). There's also an epilepsy hint in the BHS video: the flickering. This is exactly what the "epilepsy warning" on early Nintendo games was about. When you play too much Nintendo or stare into bright lights, you get epileptic seizures. And perhaps the lyrics could be misheard. As there have been some riots lately, let's pretend that we all don't know what i'm talking about. However, although the exposure was extreme, after eight years it didn't get worse and the damage is slight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.143.80.92 (talk) 10:32, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Inclusion of Neil Cicieraga's 'Close to the Sun'
Would Neil Cicierega's cover 'Close to the Sun' from the album Mouth Silence be notable enough to be included under "In Popular Culture/Cover Versions"? I'd volunteer to add and cite it if it seems like a valuable contribution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miss Zia (talk • contribs) 03:26, 26 November 2018 (UTC)