Talk:Black Stump

In regard to the contribution by Ian Olsson regarding Raffaello Carboni's use of the phrase 'black-stump', I've deleted: "Here the definition of the black stump is thought to be was beyond ones understanding probably used in everyday discussions between miners in the Ballarat gold rush days. In this way the black stump symbolised something that could not be fathomed as is the more distant derivation of today." This uncited opinion seems to be drawing an extremely long bow. Carboni's quote seems to be referring to an object (i.e., the blackened pipe). How it comes to mean a gold-digger's expression for something that is beyond a person's understanding is beyond my understanding. Ikeshut 05:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

It has always been my understanding that the Black Stump was in fact a black stump that was used as survey mark in the early 19th century and marked the end of the survey at that time

First appearance in print
In the subsection "Contested origin: places", the following sentence occured: If the use of the expression ‘black stump’ entered the Australian vernacular in the nineteenth century, it appears to be absent from Australian literature or newspaper reports until the twentieth century. However, this directly contradicts the previous mentions of "the black stump" in Boldrewood and the Bulletin, both in the 19th Century! Therefore, I've changed the quoted sentence to read: If the use of the expression ‘black stump’ entered the Australian vernacular in the nineteenth century, it rarely appeared in Australian literature or newspaper reports until the twentieth century.

yoyo (talk) 23:44, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

References to The Black Stump in Coolah start in the 1840s in a number of newspapers. Someone with more wiki knowledge please edit the article. Throughout the 1840s and 1850s there are no other references to it apart from Coolah:

1847 here:

1850 here:

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1852 here:

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