Talk:Black sesame soup

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Hot or cold?
Is it always served hot? This should be added to the article. Badagnani 21:37, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. Benjwong 21:44, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation
In regard to this edit, in the future kindly discuss prior to guessing and reverting many times, when requested. It's much more productive to do so. We are an encyclopedia and we should not base our Chinese readings on guesses, but instead on sources and collaborative discussion, with the correct information emerging through the careful analysis of the evidence. Badagnani (talk) 20:03, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Double standard much? Why must we carefully analyze sources just to get a simple pronunciation out while there are no complaints about how something is pronounced in English (such as "David Oei")? You do not even know the language, so it's best you keep quiet about the subject.  GraYoshi2x► talk 20:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Kindly moderate your tone. We are an encyclopedia and, as such, our position as editors is one of great responsibility. Thus, we should verify our information via careful, collegial discussion when naming a page or verifying a pronunciaton. We cannot risk that our credibility as an encyclopedia be questioned. Also importantly, when requested by another long-time editor to discuss a particular point, please do so. Badagnani (talk) 20:37, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Indeed, let's all source every single pronunciation to make sure it's verifiable and correct so our holy encyclopedia is not questioned. Anyways, as I said before, you have no understanding of Chinese; why question a person who does?  GraYoshi2x► talk 20:45, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Kindly moderate your tone. David Oei's name is clearly pronounced "Wee" on widely available LP recordings, and the subject of the article also verified this per WP:BLP. In classical music circles the pronunciation of his name is widely known, as he is one of the most prominent American concert pianists. His family originates in Amoy (Xiamen) and that is the way they pronounce it (or at least the closest English approximation to their reading of that surname). The substitution of fourth tone for second tone at Black sesame soup was clearly incorrect, which was the reason for questioning that particular reading. The correct tone, as deteremined by checking sources, was fifth tone. This was determined through careful and collegial discussion and examination of sources, as it should have been, but only after many insistent and repeated reversions replacing the wrong tone again and again (which should not have taken place). Badagnani (talk) 20:38, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Your source was another Wikipedian, as seen on your talk page. I'm just going to pretend this discussion never happened, as you are obviously trying to discriminate against me and all my contributions by nitpicking minor faults and insulting me with them. It's just not okay.  GraYoshi2x► talk 21:06, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Discrimination is against Wikipedia's ideals, and I do not engage in it. We can all work together to make this the best encyclopedia possible. It really is an important task, and should be done with the greatest seriousness and togetherness. Let's work together to do that, on this and every other article, utilizing discussion and comparing notes as requested and necessary. This process really works well. Badagnani (talk) 21:09, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm reverting it to the second tone - I'm a native speaker of Chinese. InfernoXV (talk) 17:59, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Why would you revert based on a guess rather than discussing and analyzing evidence. The Unihan Database says it's fifth tone. Please take a look at the source, and restore it to fifth tone. Thanks for this. Badagnani (talk) 23:24, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll discuss this. The 'Fifth Tone' is a theoretical tone which nobody pronounces - it doesn't exist in real life. In speech, the Fifth Tone usually becomes either the second or fourth. InfernoXV (talk) 08:32, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No, it doesn't and it isn't. Tone 5 is a short tone which has no emphasis and varies widely depending on dialect. Changing it to the second tone would therefore be inaccurate.  GraYoshi2x► talk 01:22, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Quality of Article
The quality of this article is clearly substandard according to wikipedia's guidelines. Requires cleanup for poor grammar, bad sources, and unverified facts. Payppp (talk) 20:22, 15 September 2013 (UTC)