Talk:Black stork

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The food items listed are those in the Collins Guide, need a source for claim by anon that they eat mainly fish. I would be surprised if large numbers of Black storks, as opposed to White, went through Gib. The Spanish population is mainly resident, and the rest mainly breed in eastern Europe. jimfbleak 16:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, BWP concise confirms fish, but only mentions the Bosphorus. The small Iberian population is at least partially resident. jimfbleak 16:20, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I would say that the map is incorrect given that the black stork does nest in Italy. --Cinclus 14:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

String of references without links
Someone from France has placed a string of references, clearly from the same group of researchers, to the end of this article without making any new text to support their use, in the article itself. This looks like self-promotion. It would be better to summarize the findings of the papers in a few sentences, or a new paragraph, if the discoveries of this group would contribute to the quality of the article. Remember that an encyclopedia is not meant to be an index of one research groups findings. There are scientific journals for that purpose. The readers do not need to be immersed in the finer details of Black Stork research.

If you can summarize the findings in the article, then making inline citations to one or two of the references, that would solve the problem. Just placing a long list of self-promoting sources is not allowed. If you would expand the article first with useful information, and then add references to back up the text, that would be different. Please see: Source_soliciting.

These were the references that had been stuck in a bunch to the end of the article, without making an effort to expand the text in the article:
 * 1) Chevallier D., Baillon F., Robin J.-P., Le Maho Y. & Massemin-Challet S. 2008. Prey selection of the black stork in the African wintering area. Journal of Zoology, 276:276–284.
 * 2) Chevallier D., Handrich Y., Georges J-Y., Brossault P., Baillon F., Aurouet A., Le Maho Y. & Massemin-Challet S. 2010. Influence of weather conditions on the flight characteristics of migrating Black storks (Ciconia nigra). Proceeding of the Royal Society in press.
 * 3) Chevallier D., Le Maho Y., Baillon F., Aurouet A., Dieulin C., Brossault P., FrancLieu P., Lorgé P. & Massemin-Challet S. 2010. When human activity and the drying up of rivers determine abundance and spatial distribution in the Black stork. Birds study in press.
 * 4) Chevallier D., Duponnois R., Brossault P., Baillon F., Lorgé P., Le Maho Y. & Massemin-Challet S. 2010. The importance of roosts for Black Storks Ciconia nigra wintering in West Africa. Ardea 98 (1): 91 - 96.
 * 5) Chevallier D., Le Maho Y., Brossault P., Baillon F. & Massemin S. 2010. Strategic stopovers of the black stork (Ciconia nigra) in Europe and Africa revealed by satellite tracking. Journal of Ornithology, in press.
 * 6) Jiguet F., Barbet-Massin M. & Chevallier D. 2010. Predictive distribution models applied to satellite tracks: modelling the western African winter range of European migrant black storks. Journal of Ornithology, in press.

This was a clear attempt at promoting own research. This is treated like SPAM. --Skol fir (talk) 17:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Um, thanks for at least keeping them here so someone can check them out though. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The references that I listed were placed at the end of the article (thereby tagged with the suspicious label "text added at the end...") I took one look and saw the same name "Chevallier" in every one of the references, with no citation in the article linking to these refs. Either Msr. Chevallier wants to get our attention :: "Bonjour!" :: or one of his co-authors wants to get his name on the board. Maybe he was going to use this article as a source on his CV. Who knows? Anyway, I left the refs. in the Talk Page so others can maybe look at them and extract some useful information to include in the article. I like scientists. I am one myself! :-) --Skol fir (talk) 21:53, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

In the "Description" section, the wingspan of 145-155cm appears quite small (in comparison with white stork, grey heron...) Other sources (for example http://www.borealforest.org/world/birds/black_stork.htm) mention 185-205cm which looks more realistic. Can't access the mentioned Cramp 1977 reference to check, but suppose this to be a typo or erroneous info? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lchaerle (talk • contribs) 15:24, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Additional image
Looking at the gallery in Commons, I'd say the article would benefit from an image of an adult stork with some young ones. There are a couple of great shots on Commons, but I'm not sure as to where such an image should be positioned in the actual article. As things stand now there is hardly any space for another pic. Could someone knowledgeable on the topic assist on this? -- L a v e o l  T 00:28, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Bookmarks
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Uncited addition
What an exceedingly fine article. I was checking it over prior to its TFA on 28 May and noticed that there was an addition which was uncited: "Further south, Lake Faguibine in Mali is another stopover point but it has been affected by drought in recent years." I don't know enough to judge the accuracy or importance of this claim, but assume that you will. In which case I would be grateful if you could cite or delete it. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:10, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Someone switched the sentences. The ref covers all three actually but someone moved the sentences. fixed now with commented out note explaining Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:52, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your concern Gog the Mild, and thank you very much Casliber for rectifying it! Adityavagarwal (talk) 15:03, 10 May 2019 (UTC)