Talk:Blackmar-Diemer Gambit, Halosar Trap

I've run through the moves a few times, and i fail to see why white has an advantage after 12 Nf3. black is up by a pawn, and the pieces that white has managed to develop are guarded precariously by black. perhaps a little more explanation is in order--69.136.244.138 04:22, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

I also thought "huh??" upon reading this, so I checked it with Crafty, which awards White a +1.58 searching ten moves deep. This is somewhere between a +/- (advantage) and a +- (winning advantage) I'd say. Note that white is not in fact a pawn up, since the threat of Nxc7+ can only be met by moving the rook and losing the a-pawn. However as opening traps go, this one is pretty crap -- White makes a stupid move (assuming the BDG itself isn't a stupid move) in the hope that Black will fall precisely in line with his plans, and even if he does he is still in the game. Why not set traps with good moves?
 * This is hardly a trap, 7...Bg4? is a blunder. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 18:41, 20 January 2012 (UTC)


 * It is in the reference. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 20:20, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Merge with main B-D G article?
Unless there is more to come on this, it would seem that this should be merged into the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit article. Jkmaskell (talk) 18:55, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Most of the articles in Category:Chess traps should be merged with the parent openings, and this is no exception. Cobblet (talk) 20:39, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 * How would that improve the encyclopedia? Quale (talk) 00:19, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * By making things not seem more notable than they really are. Cobblet (talk) 01:13, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Is there even a reliable source for the name "Halosar Trap", i.e. something in print, predating this wikipedia article and preferably not written by Eric Schiller? MaxBrowne (talk) 01:23, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The alternative (which I'm not opposed to) is to simply delete this article about a non-notable trap in a non-notable sideline of a fringe opening played only by club players.... MaxBrowne (talk) 01:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The reference for the name and analysis is in the article, Burgess 1997. Burgess found it notable enough to write about, although Wikipedia must make its own determinations. Quale (talk) 02:14, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

I have the source at home and the ref is fine, though I struggle to find any other significant mentions. Unless there are any objections, I will merge this as planned with the main article. Jkmaskell (talk) 08:41, 20 April 2016 (UTC)