Talk:Blackout (Britney Spears album)/Archive 1

chart performance.
should we include or not Nemo24 (talk) 02:50, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Of course. It should be included. Who says not? --BritandBeyonce (talk) 04:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * cuz some people deleted the chart performance before. and some added it again. then they deleted it again. so yea i thnk chart performance is very helpful. somebody should add it (not me cuz i don't have any sources ) Nemo24 (talk) 22:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I made the Chart Performance section - even though some random kept adding things that had no references and were entirely repetitive and irrelevant - after searching all over for various different sources. I didn't have data for all countries, but I think I did well with what I could find - U.S, UK, Ireland, Australia, etc - and its pretty comprehensive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by David Rush (talk • contribs) 14:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Why removed non-single pages?
Why did you remove a page of "Why Should I Be Sad"? It's not a single, and probably won't be, but, for example, "Don't Speak" by No Doubt isn't a single either. And, actually, there are a lot of CD articles with non-single pages on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Parapazzi (talk • contribs) 09:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually "Don't Speak" was the third single off of Tragic Kingdom and is considered extremely notable as a power ballad, charted high on pop charts around the world etc.(I'm a ND fan by the way :D). "Why Should I Be Sad?" hasn't really gained any notability by itself other than it's on Britney's new album and that isn't enough notability for the song to have it's own article. Other non-single articles have probably gained notabilty beyond simply being on an album but bear in mind there isn't any definate critera of what makes a song notable enough to have it's own article as it is currently being discussed. AngelOfSadness  talk  21:35, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Image
Could someone please change the image to JPG format? Its the proper format per policy. --BritandBeyonce (talk) 06:33, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Real Data and References, Please
I've been checking out the data and reference in this article. I realized they weren't real. Please, if you are gonna edit the page, do it well. Jllb21 (talk) 18:10, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Blackout Sales 5/25/08
according to BBC a respected source says that Blackout has sold over 3.6 million units worldwide I think that should be added to the article. Source:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/soundindex/profiles/artist/?id=195

she released her fifth album Blackout in 2007, which since it's release has sold over 3.6 million copies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.33.132.61 (talk) 06:22, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

i agree completely...that is what i meant when i said people were deleting valid information...il try to include the reference now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ogioh (talk • contribs) 21:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

LOL at those claiming an article from the BBC said she has sold 3.6 million... That's what you can read at the bottom of that article "This entry is from Wikipedia, the user-contributed encyclopedia. It may not have been reviewed by professional editors and is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License. Any changes made to the Wikipedia article will not be immediately reflected here".

NO WAY Bliackout has sold that much. According to IFPI the album SHIPPED 2 million by Xmas and it has not been in the top of any country's chart since then. It has not even officaly sold 900k in the US and not even 300k in the UK which are her biggest markets. This album would be lucky to really SELL 2 million. Rub rb (talk) 03:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Note that there is no specific citation for the 3.6 million sales figure for Blackout, which means that it's worthless and should be deleted.


 * A suggestion -- take the listings that are there in the article, and add them up. You have to be careful, as some stuff is listed twice.  If I do it, I get the following:
 * U.S. sales:    857,000
 * Australian sales:   70,000
 * Canadian sales:    100,000
 * European sales:    700,000 (Includes many coutries that are also listed separately)
 * New Zealand sales:    7,500


 * Total sales:    1,734,500


 * This is neccessarily incomplete, as no data is provided for some markets. But in the absence of more detailed information, it strongly suggests that the 3.6 million figure is faulty.  The 3.6 million figure should be deleted until more concrete sales information can be cited.--Wee Charlie (talk) 15:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * To settle this issue, I went to the United World charts between October and February, and totalled the sales figures listed for each week that Blackout was in the top 40. Total recorded sales = 1,387,000 copies


 * I also determined what the #40 song sold for all the weeks between November 2007 and June 2008 when Blackout wasn't in the top 40. Based on this figure, you can generate a maximum possible total of sales for Blackout, by making the generous assumption that in every week that it didn't appear in the Top 40, it was actually #41 and sold the same as the record in the 40th position.


 * If you total these figures, you get 767,000. Based on this, the MAXIMUM possible number of records that Blackout can have sold is 2,154,000 units.  Likely, sales are noticably lower than this.  This would seem to conclusively disprove the supposition that Blackout has sold 3.6 million units.--Wee Charlie (talk) 14:48, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Reference to no more singles
"On June 11, 2008, Jive Records announced that no further singles would be released from Blackout." (in the singles section)...

Any references to support this?! Nisior (talk) 17:51, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Stop stupid opinions/unnecessary info
Nobody wants to see stuff like "Blackout is her lowest selling album because of her personal life problems" in the top section. You can add it to the album reception but you can see the sales for yourself and nobody needs to state the obvious. Plus, adding a "worst album" to her awards section is dumb on so many levels. Get a life and realize that "Radar" is NOT a single and we will keep correcting these vandalizations. 99.141.26.245 (talk) 01:39, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

blackout less then 3 million copies...
ok...5.6 is the last ammount of copies that blackout sold ! on the world chart sales every week i saw blackout until january....until jan. the album sold 2 million copies... if we had 7 months [28 weeks] and asuming britney always was #41 [which she wasnt]... then 30,000 times 28 = 840,000.... and that makes it 2.8 million..
 * 1) 40 on the chart usually has 20-30,000 on the world sales scale....

she also came out the billboard 200 many many months ago [on january]...asuming that the last 30 albums sales were 1,000-5,000 in the united states...

and by this information she'd never reach the 3 or 5 million copies.....

charts dont lie !!!

you just can pop up 2.5 copies out of nowhere without people to notice that... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.72.28.190 (talk) 12:25, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll go over this again. The following is original research, and thus ineligible, but anyway...


 * If you total the sales of Blackout from the United World Charts for 2007, you get total sales of 1,030,000 copies. If you total the sales of Blackout from the United World Charts for 2008, there are an additional 358,000 sales.


 * Further, if you take the one week in 2007 (Dec 29th) and the various weeks in 2008 (up to June 28th) that Blackout was not in the UWC top 40, and assume that it sold the same as the recording which was in 40th place, you can work out the maximum possible number of copies sold. The figure up to June 28th is 767,000 copies.  Add all this together, and you get a mximum possible number of copies sold (as of June 28, 2008) of 2,155,000 copies.  Remember, this is a maximum -- likely, the 767,000 figure is actually a lot lower.  Thus there is no way that Blackout has sold more than 2,000,000 copies, it had only sold slightly more than 1,000,000 copies at the end of 2007, and the highest total of actual sales supported by UWC data is 1,388,000 copies.  QED  --Wee Charlie (talk) 22:10, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Blackout was certified Gold
BLACKOUT WAS CERTIFIED GOLD IN THE US!!!!!!!!!!!! And so Blackout isn't Britney's first studio without a RIAA certification. Did you understand??????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.18.66.24 (talk) 18:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

who is deleting valid information
someone is deleting valid info about the sales of blackout as of may it HAS sold 3.6 million copies

and whoever you are why are you cutting the article down to virtual meaningless there is absolutely no reason for cutting out the main things people want to know about an album

responce/critical reception singles chart posistioning UNITS SOLD

so please dont delete the valid and useful information that people want to hear...you may delete the unessecary info but dont leave it behind

the page should be deleted rathe than have senseless information !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, whoever is messing with the Certifications of the album should really stop. Making up false certifications to try and make the album sound like it sold more then it did is just pathetic and should be stopped. For example saying that Blackout sold 25,000+ copies and was certified 2x Platinum after 15 weeks in New Zealand, that is compleatly false. Blackout was certified Gold after 15 weeks with 7,500+ copies sold. If you do not believe this go to http://www.rianz.org.nz/rianz/chart.asp and look at chart #1609 dated Monday 24 March 2008 for proof. Another reason to prove that that the 2x Platinum certification is wrong is that for an album to be certified 2x Platinum in New Zealand it has to sell over 30,000 copies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandontepapatapp (talk • contribs) 05:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Blackout Sessions/Blackout Leaks
I don't know what Blackout Sessions is but I found out about it. It is here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Britney_Spears_songs

There are even songs like Let Go, Kiss You All Over, All That She Want, Little Me, Love is A (State of Grace), Sugarfall, Tell Me What Your Sippin' On, Pull Out, etc...

Long ago, I managed to have the song Let Go, Kiss You All Over, Love Is A, and Sugarfall. I also managed to download Fillin Me Up which was actually Oh Oh Baby, A Song About You which was actually Outta This World. I just forgot where I downloaded it but I used the technique in Google which was shown in youtube.com.

Now, can anybody tell me what this songs are? Are these songs the candidates to be put in The Blackout album?

That's all. Thank You... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeraeign (talk • contribs) 09:37, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

The "Pop rap" genre.
I don't understand why the "Pop rap" genre is listed as one of genres on the album infobox when Britney Spears does'nt rap on the album. I removed it once before, But someone put it back. Does anyone else agree with me? QuasyBoy 14:40, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

It is definitely not "pop rap." There is one song, "Everybody," a bonus track, in which she raps, but it is not a main part of the album so it is not pop rap. Hpswimmer (talk) 23:48, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually she raps on both Freakshow and Toy Soldier as well. But is it really "rap" to begin with? It's more "talk" than actual rapping, so I'm in agreement. The album isn't pop rap. Percxyz (talk) 04:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't consider it "pop rap". I would consider it more "urban pop" or even "Hip-Pop" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexander.hugh.george (talk • contribs) 18:06, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Status in Usa
"Blackout" has been certified Gold  few weeks after the release.To date it has sold over 900,000 in the US  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.18.66.24 (talk) 17:23, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes you see, this is why we removed almost every mention of music genre in articles to many edit wars and just plain stupid people that caused their own block over something so stupid. ANd yes, to anyone who listened to the album there is no rap on it. Ogioh (talk) 17:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Blackout has sold over 4 million worldwide and Radar is an official promo single
Blackout has sold over 2 million copies from its release in late October 2007 to December 2007 (I believe it was over 2,009,512) according to www.britneyspears.com, the Sun's article Blackout: Britney sells over 2 million in December 2007 and the United World Chart. By now, November 2008, 11 months later, Blackout has sold at least another 2 million copies. So the worldwide records sales ARE well over 4 million. Actual figures are probably at 4,500,000. I believe that a huge success considering Britney didn't promote the album like other singers and other singers such as Mariah Carey and Chris Brown have only sold 3 million with their new albums with world tours and many single releases. Radar should be listed as an official single, as ye list all of Madonna's promo singles. Also Radar is the most successful and highest charting promo single ever, reaching number 32 in Ireland and in the New Zealand on downloads alone. And number 8 in Swedwn and number 1 in the Phillipines amoung other countries such as America and Australia also! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.134.145.84 (talk) 20:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

BLACKOUT HAS SOLD OVER 2 MILLION ALBUMS WORLDWIDE
According to WorldWideCharts.net, Blackout has sold over 2 million albums (2.166.800 by the last week of december 2008)! 3.1 million is way too much! The sales of blackout weren't good! It wasn't a success despite the really good quality of the album! By the way, Circus is doing extremely well! In 4 weeks, it has sold over 2 million copies! if my memories are good, by the beginnig of january 2008, Blackout didn't even sell 2 million copies worldwide!
 * The 3.1 million was for the download of the songs and remixes of blackout by the end of 2008 if i'm not crazy! lol! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.92.38.132 (talk) 02:54, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Certification
The album has been out for over a year now and is still not certified either gold or platinum despite selling more than enough to be certified gold and enough to be certified platinum. Kelly Clarkson's My December has sold over 700,000 copies in the US, about 200,000 less than Blackout and is certified with platinum status, yet Blackout is still not even certified gold. I'm just trying to figure out how the RIAA works. Is there something that Spears' record label would need to do to certify the album, or does certification simply come from the RIAA?

RIAA does not count sale status but the amount shipped. Neislen Soundscan tracks sale records. RIAA certifies albums platinum when they have SHIPPED 1,000,000 copies, even if in reality only 2 were sold. (Cprice1000 17:48, 14 July 2010 (UTC)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cprice1000 (talk • contribs)

Production
It says "In February 2006, it was reported that Britney was "in the midst of recording her next album," which could possibly be released later that year." Should it says "In February 2007..." since her album was released in October 2007, and She didn't start recording it till November 2006 so it couldn't have been "in the midst of recording it"?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexander.hugh.george (talk • contribs) 04:26, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

U.S Sales and Worldwide Sales as of 2009
As of July 2009, it has been confirmed by the Nielsen SoundScan figures that Blackout had sold 967,000 in the United States, therefore it lacks another 33,000 copies to give the album a total of 1 million mark that's why it did not received a platinum certification by the RIAA which requires 1 million units or copies. Her 3.1 million sales according to the [http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/videogaga/10234/britneys-27-most-memorable-moments/ Yahoo! Music News], stands only in her digital sales of remixes and songs for Blackout being sold in the iTunes worldwide.

Sales of Blackout worldwide could be 2.5 million as of 2009, it did not sell more than 3 to 4 million copies! Despite the fact Britney didn't promote the album very well after her 2007 MTV VMA performance of "Gimme More". Hope this helps! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adelbutt123 (talk • contribs) 06:19, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Additional Promotion for "BLACKOUT"
I added the Ellen DegeGeneres show, where Ellen dances to "Toy Soldier" watch here, she did promote the album without Britney...and she did gave some of "Blackout" CD'S on its day of its release... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adelbutt123 (talk • contribs) 07:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Parental advisory was not present on Middle East edition of the album because I bought mine there and there was nothing on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.139.36.46 (talk) 14:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

BLACKOUT HAS SOLD OVER 3 MILLION COPIES!
the album has sold over 3 million copies worldwide. http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/videogaga/10234/britneys-27-most-memorable-moments/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/nov/28/britney-spears-circus this two sources say it, and also heybritney.com Why people think it is impossible? The album has been for two years and and sold 2 million on its first two months of release, making the album #32 in terms of shipments in 2007. It is very low to say it sold 2.3 million, and using fake links, because you can't use worldwidealbums.net, because that site is not reliable and it only counts mediatraffic information. DON'T LOWER AGAIN BLACKOUT SALES, IT SOLD OVER 3.1 MILLION COPIES ACCORDING TO 3 SOURCES! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BritneyFeli (talk • contribs) 03:02, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Radar not Blackout single!!!!!!!!!!!
Stop it!!!!! This was not released off Blackout!!! Cprice1000 21:17, 28 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cprice1000 (talk • contribs)

Whoever is doing it is being stupid and it is now considered vandalism to continue editing this article to put Radar as a single —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cprice1000 (talk • contribs) 23:36, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Radar is a single from Blackout
Looking at this, Radar was released in select European countries in 2007 as a CD single, which therefore means it was not for promotional purposes and was instead re-released with a larger market range on Circus. Seeing this evidence, I now believe it was originally a single from Blackout and not just a promotional single. -- ĈÞЯİŒ  1ооо  21:56, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Also from here CD-Single Jive 88697 32448 2 (Sony BMG) 2008-07 -- Platinum  Fire  14:52, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Get Naked (I Got a Plan) male singer not Danja, but Corte Ellis.
Hello. The article states that the male vocals on Get Naked are provided by Danja, as is stated erroneously in multiple sources. However the album notes state that they are by Corte Ellis. Is discogs a reliable source to credit? http://www.discogs.com/Britney-Spears-Blackout/release/1122244

188.67.77.101 (talk) 12:01, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

80% of Legacy is Critical reception
.."critics says that.." ; btw, how exactly "Telephone" recordings is part of its Legacy? Cornerstonepicker (talk) 19:53, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

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