Talk:Blockland (video game)

Regulith?
I'm from RTB and Blockland. I notice you from the Forums. Anyways, explain Events and Weaponry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blocklander (talk • contribs) 23:57, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Stop adding in spam
This notice is pointed at ROBLOX and Blockland members alike. Wikipedia is not some advertising joint, its a place where people can find information on things. Stop adding in shit like "roblox is free" or "blockland is super cool you should buy it".

Please make sure your entries are spelled correctly as well, and look professional. It looks bad when there's a section called "Add-ons!" that does nothing but advertise a few add-ons and promotes the game. If you're going to add anything, make sure it is constructive. Regulith (talk) 04:21, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Extremely competitive?
Here is the first result in google when you look up this game: Blockland - That game where you build stuff. Blockland is a non-competitive multiplayer sandbox-style construction game. www.blockland.us/index.asp Keeping in the mind that this is the official site and given that I've actually played the game, something that the writer of the article apparently didn't, I'm changing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.208.46.211 (talk) 00:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC) so....????Dannymazz (talk) 03:08, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

V11 released
Could someone update the part about development and V11? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.248.56.73 (talk) 05:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Request for Deletion
The point of deletion is outright stupid. It's like saying the August 2008 conflict between Georgia and Russia article should be deleted because it's page doesn't get any hits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.188.114 (talk) 23:04, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I, myself, am quite convinced that the request for deletion was initiated by members of the Roblox community as some sort of "attack". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ladios (talk • contribs) 23:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Check the guy who deleted some of it's page, He's from roblox., How do i sign this? four um - Tails 79.67.206.183 (talk) 23:41, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

for no reason here is snot Ecaftons (talk) 08:10, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

gotta love how the guy that nominated it for deletion plays roblox. edit: which ladios just said -_- fuuu- —Preceding unsigned comment added by InsaneChef (talk • contribs) 16:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Gotta love that I haven't played roblox is quite a While. For the past 3/4 months I have been editing Wikipedia.

This has nothing to do with roblox, it has everything to do with lack of sources. Please look here:

WP:GOODFAITH to avoid getting banned from Wikipedia, and look here WP:POV to help get this article fixed.--gordonrox24 (talk) 21:01, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

It is easy to assume good faith when the person requesting the article to be deleted is not affiliated with a direct competitor (maybe he's sore that the roblox page was deleted?) - Ephialtes42 (talk) 23:54, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I am not affiliated with roblox in anyway. They do not endorse me actions on Wikipedia, they have no jurisdiction here. What I do here is for Wikipedia, not an online game.--gordonrox24 (talk) 12:55, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if the original user who put the artical up for deletion plays ROBLOX or not, because it only matters how notable the article is, and the amount of sources the page contains. K9chief (talk) 17:28, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gordonrox24&oldid=295665519 You do have an affiliation with Roblox. I see Roblox all over your profile an old version. Also includes "Lua". Don't pull this bullshit. Also, do NOT DELETE THIS COMMENT. 69.122.250.212 (talk) 02:39, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Why are you bringing this up know? It is well documented that I used to play roblox avidly. This happened in April. 5 months ago.-- Gordonrox24 &#124; Talk 02:42, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

CSD tag.
I had to re-instate the CSD tag placed by User:Stifle. You cannot just remove speedy deletion tags. It will be reviewed by an administrator, and most likely declined anyway.--gordonrox24 (talk) 21:04, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

What? But it said that you can remove it if its incorrect or your going to fix it, And once again, Its software So its not eligible for it anyway. - Tails 79.75.159.174 (talk) 22:34, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No, it said that you need to add the tag, then add your reasoning on the talk page.--gordonrox24 (talk) 23:11, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, your history with LUA is a convenience... No. It's working against you, this is just more Roblox indignation. And if so, explain some real reasoning behind your request for deletion besides no one sees it. Because that's the case with A LOT of Wikipedia articles. MattHouser (talk) 01:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Blockland Community
Would it be a good idea to add a paragraph about the Blockland Community? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Blue Pen (talk • contribs) 12:48, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

If you can find a third party reference, then yes it would be great. You can't just add info without a reference.--gordonrox24 (talk) 12:56, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I think a reference to the Blockland Forums would be a good for the community. 74.38.145.55 (talk) 15:50, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * NO! How many times do I have to say this. It has to be third party. Meaning a reference to something other then the blockland web site, or something written by the developers. The forum is not a third party reference.--gordonrox24 (talk) 17:24, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I want to cite it to show that Blockland has a large community. Also, the forum is hosting on the Blockland website, but lots of the content on it was written by other people. Could you please show me were the rule is that says you can't use non-third party sources. -74.38.145.55 (talk) 18:14, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:RELIABLE Take a read.--gordonrox24 (talk) 21:52, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:IAR... Also, were you the one that just added that 4 year old article as a reference? -74.38.145.55 (talk) 22:13, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * IAR only applies when the rule prevents you from improving the article. It is my opinion (and most would agree) that forum links and excessive primary sources do not improve the article.  ~a (user • talk • contribs) 21:16, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, improving an article is doing something to add more accurate information. Deleting chunks of the article because the sources are not cited correctly with little warning is not making it better. --Tommeh6 (talk) 22:12, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * A forum does not need to be accurate. Joe Blow can post a thread on a forum.--gordonrox24 (talk) 23:01, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Logo
I fixed the tagging on the picture to the correct formats. It is a logo, not a screen shot.--gordonrox24 (talk) 17:24, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Release dates
Removed dates of updates. Unneeded and space whore-ish -Digmaster

COI/POV
Whoever placed the COI tag on the page please explain the reasoning for this here Ephialtes42 (talk) 21:43, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I did not place the COI tag on the page though I did re-add it after the unexplained removal. Since re-adding it, I've come to the opinion that it probably should stay for the time being.  Many enthusiastic single purpose users of blockland/roblox have done much editing of this article.  ~a (user • talk • contribs) 00:00, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I placed the COI tag with the same rationale as what User:Arichnad stated above. Edits are in good faith and with good intentions, but people close to the game have a hard time following WP:NPOV, understandably.--gordonrox24 (talk) 20:03, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * But of course someone from Roblox isn't going to think the point of view isn't correct. Neither is someone form Blockland. --Tommeh6 (talk) 20:59, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand, but as other people outside of the video game world have the same opinion as me, I still feel something is wrong.--gordonrox24 (talk) 00:31, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I can see some POV problems, but I don't think there's anything major. But I do play Blockland, so my personal bias is going to be different. And you play Roblox more, so your opinion of the POV might be different. I would like to see some more opinion posted here from people who don't play Roblox or BL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommeh6 (talk • contribs) 02:28, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * User:Arichnad isn't a user of any game.--gordonrox24 (talk) 10:55, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Please try to suggest ways to solve the issue (or highlight specific examplese) or I will remove the COI. Ephialtes42 (talk) 17:28, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

I felt that a Template:POV tag was more appropriate. I think it's a case of people either not knowing how to write in a way that is neutral or not feeling like taking the extra time to write neutrally. I'll point out a of the cases of POV, that I noticed anyway: is fine. The sentences stated above are also not good for anybody with no knowledge of the game. This ins an encyclopedia. It holds information for people to learn. If people don't know the terminology, this article is going to help nobody. Some things need to be worded differently to help readers.--gordonrox24 (talk) 21:05, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * "Structures of immense sizes can be built in a single or multiplayer setting." By who's scale? What does immense mean? It's a loaded word.
 * "The mini-game system enables users to create highly configurable" Again, highly configurable by who's standard? What if someone thinks there are not enough options?
 * Okay, this one is a bit of a stretch. "These can range from a simple deathmatch, to a zombie survival game." How is a deathmatch simple? This sentence should instead communicate in a way that is easy to understand exactly what the difference is between the two (something to the effect that one comes with the game and let other people shoot each other while the other was a mod that created a humans vs zombies team game) Sergeant Peppers (talk) 20:56, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you fix them yourself? Sergeant Peppers (talk) 21:32, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I could try.--gordonrox24 (talk) 21:47, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Who do you think is going to edit Game articles on wikipedia? People who really like the game or people who really hate the game are most likely people editing game articles. I would just like to point that out. --Tommeh6 (talk) 18:36, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You do not have to have any affiliation with a subject to be able to constructively work on an article. I have worked on articles I know nothing about. If there are enough references, you can find the information out, cite it, and add it to the article with no problem.--gordonrox24 (talk) 14:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm just saying that the people who usually edit articles do have affiliation with the subject. Some guy who has never heard of or played Game X probably isn't going to do major edits on the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.38.129.145 (talk) 17:12, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Archiving the talk page
✅ ~a (user • talk • contribs) 23:26, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

The page is getting a bit long, and it's getting hard for me to find recent discussions (especially when people place them randomly at the beginning and end of the talk page. There were a lot of discussions about content that no longer exists in the article (clans, mods). I think that any discussion that hasn't been posted in since 2007 should be archived through some method. Sergeant Peppers (talk) 23:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Not a bad idea. --Tommeh6 (talk) 23:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't this article tell how much it costs?
If people read that article, they will expect a free game.

I don't play Blockland so I don't know how much it is, but I don't know why not. Also, please sign your signatures by having 4 tildes at the end (~). Thanks! Jeremjay24 (talk) 15:46, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Blockland LLC
"Step 1: Games LLC is now known as Blockland LLC"

In the latest version, the notice is still "(C) 2007 Step 1: Games LLC" but the website has it as "Blockland LLC". Odd.

User count.
Stop messing with the user count. It is correct by the reference we have. If you want to change it, leave a better reference.-- Gordonrox24 &#124; Talk 22:43, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yo, I so agree with you. Jeremjay 24 ''' msg 14:44, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I can't believe people edit a number with a reference right next to it Kalphiter (talk) 21:30, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Semi-Protection
Seeing as the ROBLOX article is, for obvious reasons, oughtn't the Blockland article be protected too? Just a thought. 209.7.100.10 (talk) 15:22, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I slightly agree because if you look at the history, it's full of vandalism. They are probably from Roblox. Jeremjay  24  ''' 12:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Gallery
http://blockland.kalphiter.com/gallery/gallery.php?page=1

Any way this is allowed to be a "External Link"?

Kalphiter (talk) 21:29, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't see that violating Wikipedia's external link rule... Jeremjay  24  ''' 01:04, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll add it Kalphiter (talk) 06:21, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It does violate Wikipedia's external link rule: "linking to a site that you own, maintain, or represent" (source).  ~a (user • talk • contribs) 06:28, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah that really is a POV issue...-- Gordonrox24 &#124; Talk 16:49, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * wupseez. Jeremjay  24  ''' 21:37, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

All I get is someone else to put it in, and it's not self interest —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalphiter (talk • contribs) 22:42, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Too much of an ad?
Really, some of the passages sound more like an ad. Like the sentence about the forums. --75.17.203.225 (talk) 03:02, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... I'll read it over and redo this article. Thanks and happy holidays! Jeremjay  24  ''' 13:37, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Blockland "ID List" Reference
There has been some edit conflict over the reference being re-added by User:Kalphiter. This is a self published survey and he has a self interest in promoting the website. The data cannot be verified as there is no existing set of statistics. Paypal (the primary purchase method) didn't publish any data and there is no sales counting service for indie games like there are for things sold in stores. Furthermore we do not know how the data was acquired. There is no significant or encyclopedic reason for the number of users to be included in the article. They weren't cited by any mainstream source. The oxyclean article does not say "4.6 million people use oxyclean on a regular basis." Finally, the data does not account for accounts that were cancelled due to fraudulent credit card purchases, etc. Ephialtes42 (talk) 20:51, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It seems that you don't know anything about Wikipedia. Your edits are giving us more things to revert. Jeremjay  24  ''' 21:14, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Please remember to assume good faith when editing Wikipedia. If you disagree with any of the points I made above it'd be great if you could explain your reasoning so we can sort this out once and for all! Thanks. Ephialtes42 (talk) 00:28, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Seriously, not gonna make the fight bigger, but the phrase assume good faith really makes people shut up. Also, the reason why I said that is because you tagged me for no reason.  Jeremjay  24  ''' 01:35, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If you want to discuss my reasons for tagging you, that's cool. Just do it on my user page. It was mainly because you reverted two section edits I did, both times with no actual reason for revert specified. Anyway - I'm really looking to discuss your argument for keeping the ID list as a reference. Thanks. Ephialtes42 (talk) 04:10, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I gave you a reason. Don't remove that section. Do you know that that sentence is one of 2 main reasons why the article is still alive? Jeremjay  24  ''' 22:28, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I have yet to see a reason for keeping it. If you could write it again here that'd be great. I believe the article is still alive due to the strong references that illustrate the software's notability. The ID List is a weak reference at best and proves no such notability. It's the references on the Globe and Mail and Shack News that allow this article to continue existing, I believe. Ephialtes42 (talk) 23:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Now I understand what you're talking about, Ephialtes42. I still agree the fact that that makes Blockland notable, but the reference belongs to Kalphiter, which is WP:COI. Jeremjay 24  ''' 19:15, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm still not sure why you think it adds notability. The reference totally violates one of the main rules for references, WP:Verifiability. The page could say "1,000,000,000" users play Blockland and by your reasoning this would make Blockland more notable than World of Warcraft. The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth - and this reference is entirely unverifiable. You're just taking someone's word for it that the number on that page is an accurate reflection of the number of users that have bought the game. Ephialtes42 (talk) 21:18, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Screenshots
Why were some of the screenshots on the article removed? -Kalphiter (talk) 03:03, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

GNU/Linux Platform
While Blockland is not specifically advertised as having GNU/Linux support, there have been a number of reports suggesting it runs fine under emulation software such as WINE. If nobody has a problem with this I'll add it back to the sidebar. Thanks - Ephialtes42 (talk) 14:16, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think we should mention that it works on Linux. Many Windows programs work on linux with programs like WINE, but aren't mentioned in their Wikipedia articles. Also, we need references. Jeremjay  24  ''' 01:08, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, fair point. Plus since there aren't any WP:Verifiable references I'll go ahead and remove it. Thanks. -- Ephialtes42 (talk) 18:29, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Dubious
This is the official discussion for the dubious sentence in Section 3. Jeremjay 24  ''' 01:25, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if it was you who added the dubious tag, but anyway. There's no third party reference to verify that Lego offered Eric a job - the only thing close to a reference is the forum thread he wrote. Lego never published anything or made any announcements. However it is a contributing factor to Blockland going retail which makes it slightly relevant. What could Eric provide that might pass as a WP:Reliable reference, since I don't think Lego would be willing to comment. -- Ephialtes42 (talk) 18:58, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I never add tags. I just wanted to clean up the article asap so I created this section. Jeremjay  24  ''' 22:15, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Pictures
This seems to have a lack of actual pictures depicting ingame play. The only ones that were there were removed from the Gameplay section.

Another thing is that the logo picture is outdated, as Blockheads now don't have legs. Could someone bother to update it? -Conan- Nixill (talk) 18:13, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm terrible at finding logos, and bad at copyrights. I'll wait for someone else. Jeremjay  24  ''' 11:32, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Game Modes
I posted the Game Modes topic in this article. I am a Blockland user so I know what I am talking about, but feel free to clean it up a bit or add a new game mode that i may have missed. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kicooi (talk • contribs) 04:06, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

"Game Modes"? Really?
Most of these are simply mods made by the community. It's also written rather horrendously. I suggest either remove it or improve it. I'd suggest to include only things present in Blockland in 'default'. - The Titanium —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.188.213.148 (talk) 17:52, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Game Modes
As I said. Please feel free to remove or edit the game modes topic. I am new to wikipedia and am new with everything about it. So feel free to change it if you feel it is necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kicooi (talk • contribs) 04:59, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Older Versions
Since this is an article on Blockland, shouldn't it cover the older versions, like Vanilla Blockland, and Return to Blockland 1.045? Since they were around WAY before retail came out, they belong here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eldigato (talk • contribs) 10:08, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Return to Blockland 1.045 was not a version of Blockland. It was a mod for Blockland. 72.39.158.102 (talk) 15:42, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

100 players in a server - not technically possible
The maximum amount of players that can be online at once on a single server is 99. 100+ player servers don't exist. If you use the forums, search up community events such as "Kalpither's New Year Party", which had 99 players on at once. That would be cited evidence for 99, but not 100. Tanner Ghosen (talk) 14:14, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
 * um, New Years 2020 had more than 100 players. -Chazpelo (talk) 16:37, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

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Blockland's community is NOT that large
The wiki says "As of February 2017, the game's community consists of over 218,000 players.", but, well, the BLID (a special, unchangeable number that is used for each player) system works a bit differently than what people mainly expect, The site people in the Blockland community use (http://blid.daprogs.com/blid_tool/) says that there's 61k invidiual records (accounts), however, due to how the forum works, some people may have bought lots of accounts to ban evade their ban on the forum (or their ban on Glass Live, a feature on a popular Blockland addon known as Blockland Glass). Which leads me to believe, around 70-80% of the accounts are actual accs and not ban evading accoutns. --Chazpelo (talk) 02:15, 28 December 2019 (UTC)