Talk:BloodRayne (video game)

Derived from Svetlana?
JeremyLydellHaugen added the following: "''The character is a derivative of the character Svetlana Lepescu from Terminal Reality's 1999 PC game Nocturne, a deeply atmospheric and more subtle game than the BloodRayne series." The first bit needs substantiation if true; the second bit is highly POV and does not belong on Wikipedia. --Phil | Talk 09:29, Nov 19, 2004 (UTC)

I'd say that is a good observation. Svetlana Lupescu was a sexy, leather clad dhampir armed with what has become Bloodraynes tradmark blades. I agree with the second sentence, but it is totally subjective and has no place in Wikipedia. Meekrob 18:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Unwarranted Edits and Reverts by User:Hmib
User:Hmib is for some unknown reason is continously reverting and editing my entries into BloodRayne. In October 2004 Playboy Magazine did an article called Gaming Grown Up and in the article they featured several videogame characters including Rayne from BloodRayne either semi or totally nude. Hmib says that it has nothing to do with the article but I contend that since it has a direct connection with the videogame's character it should be included. I did include a Warning next to the link that says the link does contain nudity. I open the floor to further discussion on this matter. User:151.198.148.97 16:20, 20 June 2005 (UTC).


 * I reverted it because, as a simple click on the link would reveal, that not a single tittie is in sight. The URL you provided was a dead link that automatically got redirected to the main page. The URL points to a blog. BLOG! Blogs are meant to be continously updated. Unless it's a main-page feature (which it's not) any nude pictures of BloodRayne is not going to stay there for long. Take the time to find the REAL URL, like I did (Ugh! My eyes!) and don't take such trivially resolved issues to the talk page. -Hmib 19:34, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Where did this come from?
''... In the very end of Bloodrayne 2, Severin claims that the Brimstone society will have drawn their lines carefully, waging war on all vampire kind, including people such as himself and Rayne. This could mean that he too is a half-vampire or something of the sort. Apparently he might be replaced by a new dhampir who will help Rayne in her missions, secretly named LS.''

''...In the game, Ephemera is one of the more prominent villains, and is possibly Kagan's favorite daughter. It is implied that she is also a full blooded vampire much like most of Rayne's siblings. Ephemera is also Severin's old love and master, but Rayne took him from her. She even betrayed her sister Ferrill and stabbed her then threw her off of a shroud tower.''

Has BloodRayne 3's story been announced already or maybe I missed something in the second game? Where did the storyline details in bold come from?

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No, much of this is indeed speculation. At the risk of spoiling things, there have been no details released on Bloodrayne 3 and since Majesco are apparently scaling back their operations, a Bloodrayne 3 may not come out at all. Severin, during the game's ending does indeed say he is half vampire or vampire, stating as above that the Brimstone society will be against them. Though this doesn't come as a surprise to Rayne apparently, so I'm guessing she knew this anyway.

Also, the game does reveal a link between Ephemera and Severin. In a hidden video, we see Ephemera and Rayne talking. Rayne mentions she took something from Ephemera eight years ago. After a few seconds, Ephemera exclaims:"my black shadow thief..." and it is revealed that the subject of their discussion is Severin. I can't see why he would need to be replaced since if there's a third game, it might involve fighting the Brimstone society. The game's ending, if the hooded figures are the Brimstone society, seems to indicate that the Brimstone Society themselves are corrupt, one of the members being seen to sent demons of some sort towards Rayne's tower.

"Birds figure heavily into their bloodline."
According to the article, the Kestrel worship birds. I can't find any mention of this in BloodRayne 2, aside from this quote from Severin: "Looks like birds figure heavily into their bloodline." Did he mean that the Kestrel worship birds, or was he saying that the Kestrel were mostly female? ("bird" is British slang for "girl", and Severin does have a slight British accent) Neither. He was saying that they are vapires with bird in their blood.

Proposal to split article
I feel there is enough content in this article to warrant splitting the article into BloodRayne (series) (like the Tomb Raider series article) and BloodRayne 2 (currently a #REDIRECT to this article) while retaining the original article. &mdash;Metamorf 20:26, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I say let's do it. Split them up into separate sections. &mdash;24.250.58.113 08:26, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * No, there it no need for a spliting of the Raynes. Since there may be no third part there is no justification for the split. Should this be the case in the future, then so be it.

Comic section
Anybody have more info on the comic books? I was looking for some info, but it's pretty bare. --ScarletSpiderDave 19:21, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

FOR COMICS, go to digitalwebbing.com, the publisher.

YouTube links
This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 05:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Cleaned up
Ive cleaned up the article (not all of it), and added more, grammar etc. "THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 01:37, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Unwarranted Edits and Reverts by IP address 76.16.184.80
for some reason, this person is editing Mynce's section that she came back to life...can someone help stop this? "THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 05:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Pictures
A few pictures aren't shown in the article since I've corrected Wulfs forename (trust me, it's correct now - I'm german). Someone who know's how to handle pics in Wikipedia should correct that, please!!! - Soulslayer (from the german Wikipedia) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.121.110.3 (talk) 20:25, 10 March 2007 (UTC).

Plagiarism
Rayne is an obvious rip off of the 2000AD character Durham Red. They use the same weapons, they dress the same, and they even look the same. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.155.144.100 (talk) 23:30, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Then provide some proof otherwise it does not exsist. I have searched for this and I can not find anything, no lawsuits are mentioned anywhere. I have also contacted the public relations people at both companies and have heard nothing.  Web Warlock (talk) 19:17, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

This person comes off as a fan of Durham Red and is rather pissed they look the similar. I doubting this person will reply..... THROUGH FIRE   JUSTICE IS SERVED!  19:26, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I remember a post in the offical BloodRayne forums that the designers didn't even know who Durham Red was. No suprise really, it's an indie comic from England and the designers were all Americans (IIRC).  Either way I can't find the link now. Web Warlock (talk) 19:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Are talking about Bloodrayne.co.uk? That site is offline now...the only to find it would be to type in the URL at Internet archive and hope they kept on archive of it... THROUGH FIRE   JUSTICE IS SERVED!  00:55, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It is really difficult to deny that, in at least the visual sense, there is an apparent similarity between the two characters. At one time, the article mentioned this similarity without a claim of plagiarism.  I would like to see the article mention the similarity, again.  I'm looking to serve the people who come to this article saying, "Wow, she looks really familiar.  Where have I seen her before?"  Would you at least allow that the similarity is sufficient to override WP:OR in this case?
 * Don't get me wrong, though. I do NOT support anon's claim of plagiarism.  Without a source, the claim has no merit whatsoever.  I certainly do not support this editor's actions. They are vile WP:SPAM and WP:3RR violations.  I'm the one who requested that the page be protected again.  So, I'm not making this request lightly. --Mdwyer (talk) 17:26, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * If we open up WP:OR for this then where is it not used? The anon user is posting what could be considered libel to make a point I feel.  Since we are dealing then with opinions and half-heard truths the safest route is stick with policy and policy dictates that no unsupported claims can be made. Web Warlock (talk) 18:34, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * On Bloodrayne.co.uk this was denied by the developers - repeatedly, since the subject seemed to come back every few months. Yet, nobody seems to have ever mentioned the similarities with Chastity and Vampi.
 * One of their responses is cited in Durham_Red.
 * Fact is, from the discussions on Bloodrayne.co.uk (not sure how much of these can be restored via Archive.org) it appears that Bloodrayne was initially meant to be Nocturne II. Early screenshots show Rayne's appearance much more similar to Nocturne's Svetlana Lupescu character, and if one digs deep enough it's possible to find an apparent concept sketch for one of the scenes in the game. In it, the character resembles Mynce rather than Rayne (which might indicate that the design for Mynce was a recycled version of a previously rejected one for Rayne) and makes reference to a "stranger" - this my or may not refer to the character from Nocturne. Castle Gaustadt appears in both games too.
 * Anyway, I agree that unless proper references can be given (and yes, I do intend to verify the contents of 2000 AD #1564 which the vandal claimed to be his source) this should be kept out of the article. --The Fifth Horseman (talk) 12:22, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * 2000 AD #1564 does not contain any reference to any lawsuits on the matter - nor any reference to such a matter whatsoever. --The Fifth Horseman (talk) 11:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Bull shit The Fifth Horseman its there. Its in the input section and its the letter of the week fanboy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.17.193 (talk • contribs)


 * Negative proof is not really Wikipedia's way of doing things, but if you insist... Here is a copy of the Input page from 2000 AD prog 1564. Neither Durham Red nor Bloodrayne are mentioned.
 * If you provided a wrong issue number, please identify the correct number so that the information regarding the alleged lawsuit can be properly referenced and as such legitimately placed in the article. Thank you. --The Fifth Horseman (talk) 07:23, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Thats not the imput page from prog 1564 fanboy. Stop making you bullshit excuses and stop the truth form being put on wikipedia. It is soucred and referenced I put the correct prog on. you fanboys keep making shit up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.112.219 (talk • contribs)


 * I don't have time or patience to continue this ridiculous argument, especially considering your aggressive and abusive behavior. You keep missing the point, so I'll spell it out for you:
 * If you want your claims about copyright infrigement to be added to the article, you will need to provide proof that confirms them as true.
 * In this case, said proof would be a scan of the page in prog 1564 where - according to your claims - it was stated. If you don't have a scanner, find someone who does. --The Fifth Horseman (talk) 17:45, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Symbol
Sorry that I must plague wiki with my random curiosities, but what is the "oTo" symbol in everything related to BloodRayne? Zeek Aran (talk) 07:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you mean the symbol of the Brimstone Society? I couldn't find any cannon references to what it actually symbolizes.  For all we know it could just be that the artist who designed the original box art wanted to do something cool with the two Os in "Blood", and it stuck.  (Always looked like Infinity & a Dagger/Cross to me, but I've been known to see Elvis in coffee stains). --LuciferBlack (talk) 15:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It is a modified version of an alchemical mark representing sulfur, or at least so did the game developers claim when asked about it on Bloodrayne.co.uk forums a while back.
 * Also: --The Fifth Horseman (talk) 11:52, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Survival horror?
In the opening description for this page it describes the game as a survival horror. Which I must disagree, a survival horror would be like Silent Hill where the player is trying to stay alive and find a way to escape the enemies in the game. BloodRayne is a horror themed action game, the player isn't trying to escape, the player is instead hunting the enemies. Essentially the difference in genre is much like the difference between "Night of the Living dead" and "Blade". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.133.116.79 (talk) 08:59, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree completely and will make changes.

Edit request
Please change the interlanguage links to these:

BloodRayne BloodRayne BloodRayne ブラッドレイン BloodRayne BloodRayne BloodRayne (videopeli)

Those belong to this article. The removed ones belong to BloodRayne (series). 91.155.211.17 (talk) 00:33, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Nevermind. I made the changes by myself. 91.155.211.17 (talk) 18:37, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Request to edit BloodRayne and BloodRayne 2 to add the following to the end of the first paragraph: "The Terminal Cut (an updated and enhanced version for Windows 7 and later) will be released November 20, 2020."

Source 1: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1373510/BloodRayne_Terminal_Cut/ Source 2: https://www.gog.com/game/bloodrayne_terminal_cut
 * This has been added to the article by another editor. Altamel (talk) 03:40, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Article edits
I think this article could use some improvement (same with most of the other BloodRayne-related articles), and more info (especially in the plot, development and reception sections).--158.174.44.11 (talk) 05:38, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I've expanded the development section as much I can. But yes the article could use some improvement's. Timur9008 (talk) 14:54, 2 January 2022 (UTC)