Talk:Bloods/Archive 1

we should lock this
theres been a lot of vandalism

I agree Jmm6f488 23:47, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Questions
why do ur join the gang

GANG Nation
Bloods are actually associated with a much larger gang nation group called the People Nation. Conversely, the crips are in the folk nation. Bloods are often called Piru or Pirus gangs. This is because the original blood gang in Los Angeles was called the Piru's. Gangs have been known to join nation sets due to the need to ally against more powerful gangs. Nation sets also allow for drug trafficking and distribution. In addition, gang nations are important in prisons because prisoner's come from a vareity of cities and gangs. This allows individual gang members to be allied in prison and form gangs without dishonoring their local gang. The People nation, wear everything to the left and use the 5 pointed islamic star. For information regarding gang nations: [[Gang nation]

Okay, I tried to include most of this in the main article.--Polyparadigm 01:53, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Your site is not overly helpful. It is hard to navigate, and not very inclusive. I would not say it is integral to this topic.-Observator

Above, references are made to 'Pirus', 'Piru' and 'Piru's'. Which is the correct term? Jenks 07:48, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

-- The correct term is Piru (a member), Pirus (a group of Piru members). User:tachante


 * See also: Pirus (gang). -Willmcw 23:02, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)

Nonsensical sentence?
The final sentence doesn't make sense to me


 * The Bloods' use of red was originally inspired because the Pirus already had red so the other blood gangs like Brims, Bounty Hunters and other gangs wore red and called themselves Bloods.

'...originally inspired...'. Does that mean there is now another reason for the red? Or should it just read '...was inspired...'?

Why was red inspired by the Pirus? Were the Pirus the founders of the Bloods? Did other gangs join the Pirus and then the Pirus renamed themselves the Bloods? Jenks 07:48, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Good question, the sentence doesn't make sense

User:tachante 18:55GMT 24 Jun 2005

i've also heard bloods refered to as damus. ("damu" is reportedly the swahili word for "blood'. thus, damus=bloods)

Gringo300 20:21, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I don't understand this sentence:

the Bloods in New York City have realized that slashings are not the reason for Bloods banging and to stop cutting non-gang members.

I know it's got something to do with stabbings but what does it actually mean?

Patrick Beverley, 15 August 2005

-- "Slashings" means "cutting with a razor", which is a gruesome Blood trademark, sometimes done against random people for apparently no reason. "Banging" is short for 'gang-banging'. Basically the sentence means that Bloods have decided random slashings are not part of their raison d'etre. (Aside: From what I gather, this isn't compassion on their part, but rather that Juliani's crackdowns in NYC came down very hard on this sort of street crime and the Bloods have decided it's just not worth it anymore. )

Do we really need to know about this?
What purpose does an article like this serve other than to advertise criminal organizations? A load of nonsense about peace treaties etc that is only of interest to the thugs involved. If a need arises for WikiGangs or WikiThugs, then create it seperately. I don't enjoy being referred to a page like this, and it certainly doesn't contribute to any sort of pleasing impression of Wiki as such.

I guess you probably don't like the page on nazism either and would like it erasedJmm6f488 05:53, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Fuck The Article On Top
What Purpose does an article....lol....fucking little pussy man what the fuck are you babuling about you sound like a little bitch man what is your problem getting all but hurt cause it talks about gang violence some people do learn about this ok dumb ass so just shut the fuck up and kill your self for being fucking dumb you fucking dick....lol.....lol....bitch!!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.15.235.10 (talk) 16:13, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

Well you need this article so people know about gangs; if you have one about the mafia, then you need one about street gangs.


 * I do have to say that this article, as well as the one on the [Crips], definitely seems to make light of the activities of said gangs. The articles say much more about their alliances and "peace treaties" then their criminal activity, and I think that paints them with a very amiable brush. 68.83.122.84 04:26, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Why we would create an article about this - Part I

 * The article was created because some of us live in the real world. I have heard about the Crips and the Bloods but have not had any background information on either gang. If you want to find out whether this kind of article is 'nonsense' or not - I suggest you go take a bus ride to South Central Los Angeles and shout "Hey Bloods, you Faggots" and see what kind of response you get. Perhaps you will realise your mistake a few nanoseconds after you notice the gaping hole in your chest, which will be shortly after you have succumbed to the effects of being shot.

I really do not like the way that deletionists suggest that an article is not worthy of wikipedia just because they thing it should be subcategorised in to some other project. I mean, where do you stop? Perhaps we should have a Zionistpedia or a Nazipedia as well? Wikipedia, as an encyclopædia should be accessable to everyone, not just white middle class American college graduates. (Please note I do actually fall in to at least one of those stereotypes).

-- I agreeJmm6f488 05:51, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Why we would create an article about this - Part II
Before I continue, I would just like to say I was very interested to read your opinion and take it fully into account. However, I do not agree with your point.

Firstly, this article is here to inform, as is the Wikipedia site itself.

Secondly, organised crime is extremely relevant in todays society and people may want to learn more.

Thirdly, I don't believe this is an article that advertises criminal organisations. If anything, it would inform people of how these gang members live and it would inform people of exactly why they act in such ways.

Furthermore, there are documentaries on TV of more commercial, or in some ways, more widespread gangs such as the Sicilian/Italian Mafias. Are these documentaries advertising criminal organisations? If they were, then why does the media make them, the Government allow them and society watch them? Is this Wikipedia article any different from those documentaries? If those documentaries were so wrong, then would they be screened? You need to ask yourself these sorts of questions.

In addition to this, have you at any point see any signs of advertising in this article? Have you seen any evidence that shows any of the writers are in favor of these people's actions? Have you read of any glory or people raving about these gangs and congratulating them? I have been an editor of this article ever since I first joined Wikipedia and at no point have I seen evidence of this.

Going back to one of my first points, Wikipedia is here to inform. This article gives people like me, who share an interest in the Bloods or know information about their way of life, to write about them and share this information with others. It also gives us a chance to learn. I believe we are not advertising the Bloods, we are learning off eachother. Is this not the point?

Finally, people on Wikipedia may choose to write about Al Qae'da or the Mafias etc etc...Ok let's take Al Qae'da. This is a big issue for most of the world at the moment. Therefore, somebody has decided to create a Wikipedia article on them. People have added to it and it has become a damn sight larger than this article. So would you suggest that this is wrong? Or that someone should create WikiTerror for this material? Are they advertising Al Qae'da? After browsing that page, I have found they have done nothing but inform. Browsing our Blood article, we have also done nothing but inform. I have found no discussion comment on the Al Qae'da site like the one you left on this Blood discussion page. How is this article any different or less important? Al Qae'da could be considered a lot more deadly than the Bloods, so why is this article wrong and the Al Qae'da one not? Does the Al Qae'da page serve a different purpose to this one? Or are they both on this site to inform?

I believe that your statement doesn't reflect why we, the editors of this article, write up on the Bloods. Have we raved about the Bloods and praised them? Or are we writing as normal, neutral, interested people? Why is this article so wrong? Are we doing any harm? Are we blatently increasing support for the Bloods?

If you do not wish to read about the Bloods, there are thousands of other articles you may wish to read.

TC Tachante

Nicley Done!!--71.116.65.241 19:38, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Why we would create an article about this - Part III
Right now, I am doing research on the Bloods and Crips, and the wikipedia articles on the bloods, Crips, Raymond Washington, and Tookie Williams have been excellent starting points.

More importantly, street gangs are part of the world we live in, they are a fact of life, and there needs to be solid, accessible information about them available to those who wish to learn.

If you are interested in "a pleasing impression of wikipedia"--????--I suggest you start you OWN wiki. One that would have no references to war, death, racism, drugs, pollution, genocide, or any other fact of life in this world that isn't nice, and that we wish would just go away, and maybe it will if we pretend it doesn't exist.


 * I'm not against gangbangers having articles on wikipedia. I'm against gangbanging period. It's a two-way street - either you end up in jail or dead. Stupid, but it's your life.  Don MEGĂ | 60645  13:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

This page isn't intended to glorify the Bloods anymore than the mafia page is intended to glorify the mob.Jmm6f488 05:50, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

"Black Liberation Organization Of Defense"?
I am extremely dubious of the putative acronym origin of the Bloods' gang name; I think the acronym should be deleted unless the claim can be documented. Matt gies 23:48, 27 July 2005 (UTC)


 * I agree. -Willmcw 02:59, July 28, 2005 (UTC)


 * I also agree. I think this is what is known as a backronym. -Dudepal 10:22, December 12, 2005

The Crips were influenced by the Panthers I don't know if the Bloods were, I think some Bloods made up the backronym after the fact.Jmm6f488 05:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

merge
I merged some stuff over here from another page. Poorly written for sure. Not sure deleting it wholesale is the best way to make the article better. I have nothing invested as it's not my text. Just making a suggestion for those active on this page. peace, Tedernst 21:19, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Bloods & hip-hop
I'm not sure we need so much listing & conjecture as to the affiliations of individual rappers (especially unknown ones). It does not provide any useful information... The part about Suge Knight I feel is appropriate because his affiliation became public when he when on trial and was a partial cause of his recent incarceration. However, the affiliation of others (especially their specific sets) is not useful, accurate, or very fair to the people listed. It also cheapens the article a bit and may be the cause of some people's complaints that the article glorifies gangs. If you disagree, please say so other wise I'll make changes within a week or so. Reggaedelgado 17:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I do disagree. I think it's relevent information because it connects this gang to pop culture, and many Wikipedia pages I see will connect their     subjects to pop culture in some way or another.  I also don't understand why you think it's "unfair to the people listed", since the rappers listed have often made their gang connections quite public.  Also, I have only posted rappers who have specifically claimed those 'hoods in interviews.  Notice that I have also refuted popular misconceptions about certain rappers having Blood connections - for example, Tupac, Dipset, and Lil Wayne.  I believe my information is quite accurate - if you wish to see links, I can provide those.  Also be aware that I am a former Los Angeles resident myself, and I am quite familiar with gang culture and who claims what.


 * My comment is only because I thought that the main message of the page was being lost a little because of the lists. I agree that many wiki pages (rightfully) connect to pop culture, and in the case of gangs I feel that this is especially relevant, considering how most people who access this page intially even heard of these gangs. However, I did think that the errors and conjecture (most of which you (i guess it was you) corrected) did take away from the page and was not really topic appropriate (rappers no one has heard of, rappers in new zealand with crip affiliation, etc). I believe that your information is accurate, most of it IS widely known. The only thing I think would be unfair to anyone would be if they are trying to distance themselves (ie no recent mentions in songs, etc) or if they are straight studio gangsters. Perhaps the page would be best served by a quick intro sentence about hip hop and gangs, and a reduced list of key rappers who claim. I think that it is important, as perhaps two of the only people with real working knowledge of the issue, to avoid the impression that gang affiliation is necesary for hip hop success and to be clear that although crips/bloods are RELATED to hip hop, they are seperate phenomena. I have seen too many articles in wikipedia about "african american" subjects that lump together racist/ignorant ideas and cheapen the (often ugly) truth. I think that together we can make this a nice article that informs and gives a fairly complete picture of the so-called "black" gangs of LA. By the way, I was a reggae/hip hop DJ for years in LA and came accross WAY too much gang business as well, so at least two of us have some real experience in the area....(no offense to others, but expert opinions are always valued, right?)Reggaedelgado 03:37, 29 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Indeed, you are correct, it would be unfair to people who don't want to be associated with gang culture anymore (which is why I have left off DL Hughley, who is a former Blood, and Tone Loc, who is a former Crip), but for entertainers who continue to associate with their sets, I think it's fine. You are correct that it's wrong to associate hip-hop culture in general with Crips and Bloods, but it's not as inaccurate when it comes to West Coast gangsta rap specifically, because it is true that this style of hip-hop came straight from the gang culture in Los Angeles County, regardless of whether or not the rappers themselves were gang members (like Ice Cube pretending he was a Crip).  I'll admit that it does sadden me to see that the infamy of Cali's gangsta scene has often obscured alternative artists such as Digital Underground, the Hieroglyphics family, Blackalicious/Soulsides, etc.  Still, the section above the list briefly describes the relation of hip-hop to Bloods, and I think it does its job, though if you wish to add additional info, that would be great.  As you've said, we both clearly know what we're talking about, so it's good that we can both bring our opinions to this page.

Suge Knight
How could Suge Knight have managed Death Row Records, with Eazy-E and Snoop Dogg, while he is a Bloods-member and they are Crips?

Its all about the cash. That overrides all other squabbles.


 * Eazy-E was never on Death Row. Crip and Blood-affiliated rappers collaborate with each other on record all the time - a perfection example is Ice Cube's group Westside Connection (WC is an NHC Crip, while Mack-10 is a Queen Street Inglewood Blood). There was even a rap album released in 1993 called "Bangin' On Wax" which had rappers from various Crip and Blood sets working together. Contrary to popular belief, Crips and Bloods are perfectly willing to put aside their differences (or lack thereof) and work with each other when they have mutual interests invested in a project. This whole concept of gangs as completely cutthroat organizations is BS.


 * Sure. Next, you'll be saying they get down with Guardian Angels saving the ghetto. Whatever.  Don  MEGĂ| 60645  14:00, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


 * No, I am not. But it is true that despite the extremely violent side of the lifestyle that has been popularized by rappers, most individual bangers are not particularly concerned with "set-trippin". Don't open your mouth unless you know what you're talking about.

Suge Knight is not a rapper and therefore should not be in the "Rappers with affiliations" section. Although CEO of a rap record label, it does not make him a rapper himself. This is a prime example of authors unfairly tying "gang" culture to rap, by lumping a notorious Blood in with (otherwise) legitimate recording artists.


 * And Eazy-E was NEVER with Death Row. Eazy-E was with Ruthless Records. That would be Dr. Dre who was with Death Row.  Don MEGĂ | 60645  13:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

No Bandanna picture?
I was wondering can somebody put a picture of the "Bloods" bandana up like the one of the Crips site? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hailey C. Shannon (talk &bull; contribs).
 * Well, the one that is on Crips (as well as the one that used to be here) is highly misleading in that it implies there is a single "gang bandana" -- which is not true. Basically, any bandana will do, and the bandana in question may be worn for non-gang purposes or by non-gang members.  I didn't remove the one from here, and I am not going to remove the one on Crips, but I am not sorry to see it go.  --Nlu (talk) 20:25, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I've heard horror stories about people who weren't in gangs who got killed, because their clothes were a certain color, here's more about non-gang uses for bandanas is found at kerchief.--Hailey 23:19, 13 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The blue/red bandanas are played out these days, as if the practice of "flagging" (carrying a folded-up bandana in either your left pocket for Crips, or right pocket for Bloods). If you go out to L.A., you won't see any Crips or Bloods doing that anymore.  Bangers don't do anything that will draw attention to them, and dressing heavily in red or blue and carrying a red or blue bandana makes it all too obvious.


 * I used to go to UCLA, and as you know the professors make you write papers on everything. I wrote one on "Gang Life in Compton". Since I had friends that were heavily involved in the gang life, all I had to do was question them. Now I can tell you something. The most red they ever had on was MAYBE a red-tee under a white-tee with some red-shoelaces. But you'd always see them with their hats tilted to the right, [Designates gang membership]

Though I make no claim to being an expert, there are actual defining features to a Blood flag, beyond just being a red bandana. Along the outer edges of the bandana, there are five swirls, which, along with the last swirl on the left edge and the first swirl on the right roughly spell Blood. I tried to find a picture of one so I could link it, but no such luck. Also, though it is uncommon to see a member flagging publicly, flags are still kept, at least within some sets, as a more ceremonial object. CwH

revisiting bloods and hip hop
I recently came by this article again to view some changes, and I was appalled at the "bloods and hip-hop" paragraph. Although it contains some usefull information, it is still one of the most poorly written paragraphs in the entire wikipedia. Much of it is a list that is far more cogently presented in the section immediatley following. Further, it seems to be debating itself with little reference to the actual article topic. Anybody want to really fix that paragraph? I guess I could... just remember that this is an article about a street gang called the bloods, not the members, not the wanna be's.Reggaedelgado 21:49, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, I am the original author of the paragraph, so I resent being told it's poor, but to be fair, a number of other Wikipedia users have been changing it repeatedly and taking out info I wrote (including a Dipset groupie who refuses to accept that his favorite rap group are not actually Bloods). So as you can imagine, it's not how I intended it to be.  Also, notice that a lot of info keeps getting deleted, not just in the hip-hop section, but elsewhere.  This page was originally a lot longer than it is right now.


 * Might be worth visiting the history and bringing back that old information. The constant vandalism has definately hurt the article content. .:.Jareth.:. babelfish 04:50, 2 March 2006 (UTC)


 * No offense to anyone, I certainly didn't think that the paragraph was anyone's FAULT, it just reads very poorly. Like I said, it is much the same list as what comes right afterwards. I agree that someone is obsessed with dipset being a blood affiliated group, which really is of interest to no one and advances no one's understanding of the street gang referred to as the bloods. However, much like on the Crips page, we need to remember that the article is about the GANG not about random members, many of whom have had their membership greatly exagerrated to boost record sales... hip hop is no where near the main activity of the bloods, yet we have 4 sentences about the gang and 2 paragraphs and a list about rappers who may or may not be bloods.Reggaedelgado 05:30, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Kriblo Mafia kriblo mafia a gang made of crips and bloods, also called 3rd world,fuschia,or 3rd breed,togetehr crips and bloods what can ya say,its bad when you have 2 different groups of people under the 5 and 6


 * WHAT? What the hell are you talking about?  Don MEGĂ | 60645  14:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Youngbloodz
Do they have any affiliations with the Bloods?

Bandana Claims
Is it true that every gang bandana no matter what color says "Blood" & "Crip" on it hidin in the corner?

Not EVERY bandana. But often, they have their set "B-Block Boyz, D-Block, DIPSET..." or something like that can be found in white writing.

Money
Does anyone know if the Bloods are into the drug trade or not? Do they smuggle weapons or make people pay protection money. If so please up date.

They're not in protection or weapon smuggling, but the Bloods are heavily involved in the drugs trade, inparticular Crack. 212.139.255.191 14:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Crack
The Bloods are involved in the sale of crack cocaine. In fact Bloods and Crips make up 35 percent of the national sell of crack.


 * Not sure if that can be verified, but if it can it belongs in the main article. Also not sure who posted that!Reggaedelgado 07:07, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

money over bitches

History Opening Sentence
"The Bloods were formed when several members of the called on a meeting with other smaller gangs in Los Angeles, to form an alliance called the Bloods."

several members of the what?

Piru Gang?

Some people on here watch too much TV, this statement isn't entirely true. The Bloods were formed before the other smaller gangs were consulted...the Compton Piru's were the bloods before any meeting took place.

Crack II
The information that i collected on Bloods is from a statistic i found in the book Gangs. It was a Other America book. However the percent may have changed since the book was published. But i do believe that information on some of the illegal activities that they partake in should be listed.

New Additions to the Trivia section
Recently a few new items were added to the trivia section. Great stuff, can we get a source for the additions? I'm fairly certain I've seen a source for the handsign, I'll see if I can dig up whether or not that was in Ice-T's book. Not sure about the initiation and Baby Blood additions though, so I've marked those as needing a citation. For anyone who's not familiar with our policies, please see the verifiability and sources pages for more information. .:.Jareth.:. babelfish 05:34, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Please Source, thanksJmm6f488 05:45, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Unreferences additions
I've removed this portion from the hip-hop section:


 * Many of these claims are frabricated, exceptionally in relation to aspiring mainstream rappers. Becuase of this the claims of the Game and assocciates has been refuted by minor assocciates within the Bloods.


 * It has also been said that the late Tupac Shakur was affilated with the Mob Piru Bloods, mainly because of his close relationship with CEO of Death Row Records, Suge Knight and this link actually brings a fair bit of credibility with it. The Los Angeles police (and a three second shot in Tupac Ressurrection) caught Tupac with Bloods stomping a man who attempted a clumsy assault. Tupac's affiliation with the Bloods bred Biggie's own with the Crips as both rappers used the gangs for security purposes

All of the statements need to have a reference. Please see our policy on citing sources (WP:CITE). For example, the first sentence appears to be an opinion (probably held by a lot of people) -- to be written to fit into an encylopedic tone, it could go something like: John Doe has reported that many of these claims are fabricated, often by aspiring rappers. The other statements just need some kind of a source; I'll see what I can do to dig some up. The reference system can be a bit confusing at first, so feel free to just leave the source information here (as much as you have, links are especially helpful), or click this link to leave me a message and I'll be happy to help explain it (or any other questions you may have). .:.Jareth.:. babelfish 04:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Complete mess
What has happened to this article? A couple of months ago it was of good quality, with concise NPOV info that had references and tallied with other accounts.

Now it's peppered with street-corner braggadocio, and in many places is barely readable, badly formatted, unreferenced and highly POV biased.

Right now this article just isn't worth the bandwidth, and is one of the worst on Wikipedia. I really do recommend a revert to one of the older versions.

I rather agree with your analysis. I added the cleanup tag, and I must say I'm surprised it didn't get locked like the Crips article did. --72.35.146.211 18:22, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Need for an Balanced Viewpoint
I think this article is a good start from apparent insiders, but it really needs viewpoints from people who are victims of this gangs crimes, like relatives of people murdered by this gang, or killed by their crack dealings, or the police, or local people who have to live with them. Otherwise this article is kind of like Saddam Hussein tooting his horn, interesting, but only one sided. The same goes for the article on these guys' compadres -- 'the Crips'.


 * IMHO, what would serve ~Wikipedia~ better is a single balanced neutral account. Trying to balance something with opposing POV statements doesn't give good results. Right now the article is in a reasonable state regarding NPOV though - what's more of an issue is some of the language style used in the History section.

Everyone knows the Bloods are criminals, this page doesn't need testimony by its victims or it would be many volumes too long.Jmm6f488 05:44, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Restrict Editing?
The Crips page has restricted editing due to people vandalizing it. The Bloods page has the same problems as the Crips page did - perhaps it would be a good idea to restrict editing by anonymous and newly registered users here too. Comments?

I agreeJmm6f488 05:43, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Number
Article needs an approximate number of members. Also, why is it not mentioned that there have always been many fewer Bloods than Crips? Badagnani 06:51, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Need to find a source for it. Also, I think that estimates for the total numbers of gang members are going to be vague and varying at best, just because of the nature of the beast - criminal organizations, with many pseudo-branches and wannabes - though that's just an observation, not a reason not to put those estimates in. I'm really mentioning it on the off-chance that there is argument between people using two conflicting sources. Doctor Atomic 22:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Gang sign
I find it odd that it just mentions it, with no image. I'd put one up, if wanted :D -- 71.34.36.119 22:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Added. -- ¹²³zombie

This page needs work
It is very underdeveloped, and very biased. Why is it that the Crips page has so much more information?

The Bloods didn't start out as criminals, and even today not all of them are. I'll have to work on the page when I have time. Matt Hughes

I can only imagined how many people have been swayed by the falsifications and brainwashing set up, and the "external refernces" comes from an outdated U.B.N. book that was used 1993-2001. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheBringerofTruth (talk • contribs) 01:41, 23 February 2007 (UTC).

I agree this page really needs more info, please help.Jmm6f488 05:42, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Game and Suge Knight
These two men should be taken out of the blood page and put into the Piru page. Bloods and Pirus are two different gangs piru means pimps in red uniform but they use burgundy bandanas while blood sets use red. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.77.17.217 (talk) 23:07, 7 March 2007 (UTC).

^^shut da fuk up u idiot. cors game was in da bloods u fool. all his pics in the documentary booklet show RED bandanas, not fukin burgandy. u nob

piru comes from the street they originated on in compton.

piru isn't a different gang at all. it is a set of the bloods.

Why do people think the Piru are not a Blood set?Jmm6f488 05:41, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

HELP!
umm my freind is in the bloods but he just got muged and i want him out do you know a good way for him to escape without geting shot?AND he is only 13 years oldTridentdc24 14:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)tridentdc24Tridentdc24 14:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Tell him to "Shoop da Woop". He'll understand what it means. 68.98.50.49 04:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

At that age he can probably just suffer a beat down and get out

interwiki
please link Bloods und Crips

Bloods Notority
Will someone please add the fact that like the Crips, the Bloods are one of the most notorious gangs in the USA, let alone Los Angeles. Thanks 80.43.49.168 19:05, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Article
This article is very breif and uniformitave, and some stuff is plain worng. "they spell Bloods with their fingers"...? this is not really a real Blood gang sign, its simply made up by white kids. id expand but i cant reference stuff so i suppose there is no point 71.231.123.65 21:22, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You can (and probably should) feel free to remove uncited information that you know to be incorrect. New info should, ideally, be cited. --Dystopos 21:26, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree, this page needs more info, it is sloopy compared to the Crip page.Jmm6f488 05:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Rappers with blood affiliation
Half of the rappers that are said to be affiliated are not bloods they are pirus. They are two different gangs they used to be the same gang but the split so now there is pirus who wear burgundy and bloods who wear red. Also many of those rappers have no affiliation such as DMX or juelz santana or lil wayne there are very few bloods sets in new york(many which are thought to be fake compared to california gangs) and there is next to none in new orleans. Also Ras Kass is not gang affiliated in anyway he even says he never "banged".

Juelz Santana and Lil'Wayne are certainly affiliated with bloods. And i think DMX is also. The talk about the split is also suspecious.

The pirus are bloods there is no splitJmm6f488 05:35, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

(Jmm6f488)Youre wrong Piru's are there own card they are still Blood Affiliated but are there own faction outside of blood my references site actual Westside Piru's (WSP)!

TUPAC
Tupac was not a member of the bloods. I created an account just so I could change that info on this page. I guess this page is blocked for editing by new users. As soon as my probationary period is up, I will be back to change it. Anybody who can edit the page now and wishes to remove it first, then please, do so

Saying that Tupac was a blood is pure slander. -There is no reference to back it up -Tupac spent the 70's and 80's growing up in New York and Baltimore before blood sets even reached the east -Tupac moved to the west in 88, in the Bay area, and lived there until 92. Not one reference shows him being gang affiliated at this time -In mid 1992 at the Truc Picnic in LA, Tupac had members of the Bloods and Crips sign the "Code of Thug Life," where he acted as a neutral party with no gang affiliation -Pac spent the next 4 years of his life producing multi-platinum albums.

Now, tell me, where in all this was he ever a blood? I ain't gonna let nobody shit on my homie's name, beleive that.

Oh and don't tell me that his tattoo that said MOB stood for Member of Bloods, it was Money Over Bitches.

Just because he was seen in some video footage wearing a red bandana doesn't make him a blood. He also has been seen wearing blue. Dont get it twisted.

If anything, he was a Black Panther. His mother, step-father, godfather, and closes influences were all panthers. To top it off, he had a tattoo of a panther's head on his left arm. Wakamusha 13:50, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

If tupac is a blood how come his mate is a crip? I mean I wear red too and no one comes to say I'm a blood member... If 2pac was something he was panther like wakamusha said. 2pac is no gang related he was on a record company that was full bloods doesen't mean he is one plus suge prolly killed him or thats what I think because of money and 2pac was going on his own label and suge owed him money. 2pac wore more blue than red if you look at his pictures :)

Money over bitches is a blood term they use it to identify themselves you do not know what you are talking about
 * I have removed Tupac pending a relaible source being provided. All the sources I have read state Tupac knew some bloods but was careful NOT to be affiliated with them in any way. KillerChihuahua?!? 16:09, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Killer. As for my anonymous friend, I'm sorry but I know exactly what I'm talking about.  I studied Pac's life like a law student would study for the bar.  He was the first to coin the phrase Money Over Bitches (Not Man Of Blood or Member Of Bloods).  If some Blood sets took it and twisted it then that just goes to prove how these rumors got started in the first place.  Member of Blood, 662, Mob Piru, none of these have anything to do with Pac.  Definitely Suge, but not Pac. Wakamusha 02:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Tupac is not a Blood, he talked proudly about staying away from the gangs .Jmm6f488 05:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Grand Puba: Blood?
Is Grand Puba a Blood? I want to see a source for this...

Gang fight?
http://www.gofish.com/player.gfp?gfid=30-1023465 BoriquaStar 02:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

The Game and Bloods
Why do people keep saying The Game isn't a Blood member. The Piru's are definatley part of the gang. They are called a set of the Bloods. The Game always refers to himself being a Blood and is always wearing a red bandana or a red t-shirt or something red. He is definatley a member of the Bloods gang and should be left on the page. 79.74.52.31 21:43, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

The game is a Blood, his older brother and his father were Crips.Jmm6f488 05:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

i HATE STUPID MUTHAFUCKAS THE LINE LEFT BEFORE ME IS WRONG WRONG AS HELL WHY DO YOU MUTHAFUCKAS GET ON HERE SAYIN SHIT LIKE YOU REALLY KNOW SOMETHING JUST LIKE THE DUMB MUTHAFUCKA I HAD TO CORRECT EARLY IN THE ARTICLE ABOUT VICE LORDZ AND PEOPLE NATION WEAR EVERYTHING TO THE RIGHT U CAN NOT GET ANY MORE WRONG THAN THAT. JUST LIKE THE GAME STATEMENT YOUR WRONG GAME MOTHER AND FATHER WHERE CRIPS HIS OLDER BROTHER WAS AND STILL IS A HIGH RANKED CEDARBLOCK PIRU BLOOD BEING THE MAJOR INFLUENCE IN WHY GAME BECAME BLOOD BECAUSE GAME STAYED IN A CRIP NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A GOOD PART OF HIS LIFE BUT KNEW IT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO BE A BLOOD WITH HIS BROTHER. *****KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT BEFORE POSTING*****