Talk:Blue Line (withdrawal line)

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I have a few concerns about the information on this page: 1. The background is misleading by showing that Lebanon deserved Israeli attack against it which, is not the case. 2. The statement 'based on the best available cartographic and other documentary evidence.' needs evidence. 3. The Lebanese Army carried out surveyings beside the UN team and found out that the Blue Line has truncated huge areas from Lebanon and therefoe it does not match with the Lebanese borders. 4. Lebanon considers the Blue Line as a line that demarcates the Israeli troops deployment and not a border line. Lebanon also claims land at four points along the Blue Line and this fact is documented in the UN. This should be included in the article. 5. Lebanese borders with Palestine were demarcated by the French and the English before the declaration of the state of Israel and the borderlines are documented. Three of the Lebanese claims are on Israeli-Lebanese borders. 6. The fourth claim is on Lebanese-Syrian borders in Shebaa farms, which Israel says it is Syrian and Lebanon and Syrias say it is Lebanese. Both ways, Israel does not have the right to keep it. 7. The breaches to the Blue Line by both sides should be included as well as the casualties resulted from these breaches. 8. The statement 'they would respect the line as identified' needs a proof and reference is it was correct.

(a_rihani) 13:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

This article definitely needs a map/image Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 17:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Neutrality
It seems to me that most of the concerns previously raised have been fixed. Is the neutrality still disputed? RyanEberhart 16:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Differences to Green Line?
Is the Blue Line identical to the Green Line in northern Israel, ie the 1949 cease-fire line? I mean towards Lebanon and except the Golan Heights-Lebanon part.Vints 11:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

No, a few very small differences (around a half dozen), none more than 475 meters. One is at the spot (though it was not a factor) of the much-reported Feb. 7, 2007 incursion into Lebanon across the Blue Line by Israel. DLinth 20:14, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Much of the article is copied from http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unifil/background.html, starting from "From 24 May to 7 June..." Vints 12:07, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Fence?
More info needed on the August 3rd incident. For example, the Isrealis were cutting the tree by reaching equipment over a fence. Why? Was the fence built on the line (according to the UN, no)? Was it built to demark some kind of "neutral zone" around the Blue Line? If there's nothing marking the Blue Line, I can see how it got out of hand, if the fence was the only indicator in that area of the separation between the two sides... 216.65.182.66 (talk) 22:05, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

The border between Israel and Lebanon isn't like the DMZ between the two Koreas. There is no buffer zone, no neutral zone. Like most countries that share a border there's no actual visible mark along the entire border. The border is simply the "Blue Line," an invisible line where Lebanon ends and Israel begins.

The fence was built by Israel alongside a road that wraps around the neighboring Israeli village, the fence and road don't follow the Blue Line. In some parts the fence is up against the Blue Line border with Lebanon, elsewhere the fence is further back from the Blue Line border so the land between the far side of the fence and the Blue Line is still Israel for a distance. That was the case of the tree in the August 3rd incident.

The Israelis were reaching over the fence because the tree was on the Israeli side of the border so it was Israel's responsibility to maintain it, they perform these trimmings about once a week and routinely notify the Lebanese army via UNIFIL when the work is going to occur so the Lebanese aren't surprised to see Israeli troops just a short distance away from Lebanon.

Even the Lebanese government acknowledged the tree was on the Israeli side of the Blue Line, but in a new development claims to no longer recognize the Blue Line's validity. The situation "got out of hand" because the Lebanese army opened fire to support that challenge to the Blue Line, in a sense the Lebanese government has adopted what has been the Hezbollah position of rejecting the UN determined, internationally recognized border between Lebanon and Israel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Polscinyu2012 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Iranian President
Section moved from the violations section to an independent section since the visit is not a violation of the blue line.--Atmleb (talk) 20:09, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Map conflicts with text
The map shows the Blue Line extending into the border between Lebanon and the Golan Heights even though the text of the article states that the the Blue Line expressly was not defined in this region. A new map should be created that agrees with the text.

This map also names the international border between Israel and Syria as the "1923 international border", when it more importantly is the 1949 international border. When the map is revised, this label should be updated. Dfoxvog (talk) 02:46, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

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Moving Page`
Hey guys, thoughts about moving the page to Blue Line (Borer) instead of Blue Line (Lebanon) as the border is the Israeli-Lebanese border. Idan (talk) 23:06, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good idea. Epson291 (talk) 15:35, 10 September 2022 (UTC)