Talk:Blue Monday (New Order song)/Archive 1

Untitled
Does anyone have a photo of this sleeve? I'm intrigued... -CamTarn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.252.128.15 (talk • contribs) 20:33, 14 November 2004 (UTC)

There are images in the discog - it's like an old floppy disk. Added an external link to it. - Neil — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.131.166.67 (talk • contribs) 10:58, 13 December 2004 (UTC)

Infobox
I've added information for all three releases to the infobox. It seems to hold up, albeit the result is quite cluttered. The 1988 release might be significant enough to warrant a separate infobox under the current one... although then there would be no good place for the 1995 release (which would be no great loss, IMO). Any thoughts? --Unint 05:40, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Shaun of the Dead
If I'm not mistaken, Blue Monday was refernced in one scene of "Shaun of the Dead" where Shaun and Ed were flinging vinyl records at the zombies. Doberdog 03:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)Doberdog

Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): When Shaun and Ed are frisbeeing vinyl at their two zombierific backyard invaders, Shaun claims that a copy of New Order's "Blue Monday" is an original pressing. The first pressing of this 12" single in the UK was in a die-cut sleeve with a black insert, so the one in the film is obviously a later release.

Did Apple use this?
I am sure Apple used this song in some promotion or other (I think it was QuickTime). However, I don't want to put it in the article until someone can back me up. (Searching yields no result). --80.229.152.246 21:06, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

YouTube links
This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 05:16, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

Blue Monday (New Order song) → Blue Monday — This is by far the most common meaning of "Blue Monday". The move also entails shifting the current Blue Monday disambiguation page to Blue Monday (disambiguation). —Stemonitis 11:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Survey

 * Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with  or  , then sign your comment with  . Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.


 * Oppose - there are too many other uses of the term Blue Monday to justify these - better to leave things as they are. -- Beardo 08:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose. No primary usage.  Vegaswikian 19:15, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose. No Primary Usage Murphy Inc 21:23, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:

Given the number of uses, it is not likely that there is a primary use for this very common title. Vegaswikian 05:35, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I fail to see the reason behind this statement. Just because there are many potential uses, it doesn't necessarily reduce the frequency of the most common one. BBC (disambiguation) is a much longer list than this one, but that doesn't affect the fact that the British Broadcasting Corporation is the most common meaning. --Stemonitis 07:28, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I see nothing that says there is a primary usage for any of the ones listed on the dab page much less yours. I know that I would consider two as being better candidates then the one you are suggesting to replace the dab.  But to replace any dab with an article you need to show real and convincing proof that we really have a primary use.  With better know phrases like Blue Monday (date) that may be hard to do. Vegaswikian 18:46, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I think the BBC is a bad example, what needs to be understood is whether 'Blue Monday' was an original name dreamt up by the band or whether they chose the name from a phrase already exisitng in popular culture. I would be confident that the name came from a phrase already in use that described Monday mornings i.e. Blue means sad/depressed and this is how many people feel going back into the office on Monday morning. If the name is not original and there are other uses of the same name then it cannot be the primary use. Popularity should not be a factor in Wikipedia, this is an encyclepedia not a pop contest. When this one is sorted who wants to help me tackle U2? ;-) Murphy Inc 21:23, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. ''Although Murphy Inc seems to have misunderstood our naming conventions (priority is not really relevant, while predominance of usage is), I was clearly wrong in thinking that the New Order song was the primary usage, and I'm very glad I asked before making the change unilaterally. Thank you all for your input.'' --Stemonitis 07:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

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Recent deletions
The Infobox and 2 headings were removed with the mysterious edit summaries like "rv trivia"? Why? feydey 22:29, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The infobox was pushing the text half way down the page, creating a large amount of white space. I removed it until I figure to to align the text to the left. Sorry about the cryptyc edit summary thought. Ceoil 09:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Video game usage
The opening bass and drums were played on loop as the background to a Mac Brickout-style video game in the late 1990s/early 2000s. However, I do not remember the game's name, only the appearance and music. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.34.114.160 (talk) 07:34, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

The song is also featured on one of the radio stations (The Wave) in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories for the PS2 (I'm not sure if the song is included on the PSP release of the game). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.238.77.52 (talk) 04:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Helps you work, rest and play...
A scary reference - I heard it on a TV advert for Mars bars the other day. A strangely shortened version to get as many of the instrumental "hooks" in as possible, and ending on the vocal "How does it feel". Doubt it'll help shift any chocolate, though. --Renny Barrett, 10 October 2006

It was used on ads for Mars, the one that was shown in New Zealand featured a guy wandering around city streets with multicoloured "graphic equaliser" effects in the cityscape background. It was also used in an American Express Blue ad campaign in the late 90s or early 2000s - if memory serves. PerfectKiss 01:53, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Longest track
I see someone has written that At nearly seven-and-a-half minutes, "Blue Monday" is one of the longest tracks ever to chart in the UK, (behind The Orb's 40 minute opus "Blue Room" and Laurie Anderson's' "O Superman"), and someone else has put a citation needed tag on it. I would recommend removing the sentence altogether as "Blue Monday" must be quite a way down the list. Just off the top of my head I can think of "I Would Do Anything For Love" by Meat Loaf (about 8 minutes), "All Around the World" by Oasis (over nine), "The Crown" by Gary Byrd (like "Blue Monday", a 12" only release, but longer at over ten minutes), "French Kiss" by Lil' Louis initially charted as an 11min+ 12", with shorter versions being released later in its chart run, N-Joi's "Live In Manchester Part 1" was over 14 minutes, Future Sound Of London charted some ludicrously long singles... well, you get the picture. --88.110.5.75 (talk) 22:21, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Completely agreed, and I've gone ahead and removed the statement altogether. Obviously I'm not disputing that those songs charted and were longer than Blue Monday, but from the way the sentence was written, it sounded like those particular songs were #1 and 2 in length across the entire history of the UK singles chart, which is obviously not the case. Removal is the best option, as there are probably too many songs to list in that particular context. MemoriesFade (talk) 00:35, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

--- I think the length quotation is referring more to the fact that it is not common for a song of that length to become quite so popular

Genre?
I noted that the genre for different versions of this song has been marked as "techno". I believe that whoever wrote that does not really understand different genres of elctronic music. However, labeling it "electropop" is not satisfactory either. How about new wave / electro? That might suit better. Mstuomel (talk) 22:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Correct...'techno' is miles off. But no British person would describe New Order or 'Blue Monday' as 'new wave' either (see the wikipedia article on that genre for how differently that term is used in the UK). As for 'electro' that's more the brittle/sparse electronic sound from New York associated with body popping and very early hip hop, etc. 'Electronic dance' or 'synth pop' would be closer (the track endlessly appears on UK compilations of that genre). Vauxhall1964 (talk) 19:31, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

The Beach
I have the 1983 vinyl 12" of Blue Monday/The Beach. The track entitled The Beach is the more recognizable version of what is called Blue Monday with lyrics et al, and the side labeled Blue Monday is an instrumental remix of The Beach.  Do I have mislabel or is this significant? 209.248.160.82 17:49, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Sounds more like you can't read the labels properly... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.138.235.243 (talk) 03:10, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I too have the 1983 vinyl (FAC73) of Blue Monday, and just like yours the side labelled "The Beach" is the track that is on my CD copy of "International" as Blue Monday. The side labelled Blue Monday is more instrumental, with only small sections of the lyrics performed through a voice distorter. I've discussed it with several other music lovers who bought the 12" in 1983 and we've all agreed on the difference. Obviously the song's title isn't worth changing because of this, but perhaps mentioning the significance and differences of FAC73 tracks "The Beach" and "Blue Monday" in the article would be a good idea. Hardyous (talk) 14:17, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

I can also confirm this to be the case. Indeed it was a well-known fan detail at the time that the "correct" name of the composition popularly known as Blue Monday was, according to the labelling, the Beach, with the B-side instrumental version labelled Blue Monday. However, I do not know, but would be interested to find out, how this anomaly arose: was it a mistake in labelling; or, was it a mistake by a radio DJ that popularised the misnaming and it just stuck?86.12.5.17 (talk) 21:42, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Merge
Please note : There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Songs/coverversions with the purpose of trying to establish a guidance for merge/separate different versions of the same song. Please make known your feelings on the matter.--Richhoncho (talk) 21:34, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Nonsensical
'and is the highest single in New Zealand ever to date in the world' What the hell does this mean? - ???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.129.99 (talk) 23:17, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Fuck knows. Gone now anyway. Ceoil  23:29, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Cover
The 1998 cover by Orgy has its own article - Blue Monday (Orgy song). Shouldn't it be a subsection of this page rather than having its own article as per Wiki conventions with all covers being mentioned on the original song page rather than getting their own article (even massive songs like Mariah Carey's or Harry Nilsson's cover of "Without You" go in as a subsection of the Without You (Badfinger song) original article, for example). 86.134.91.102 (talk) 20:41, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * - No. Ceoil  23:31, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Three 3 UK TV advert?
Nov 2011 has seen a TV advert in the UK for the Three mobile phpne network. It features a stereo speaker with liquid on it jumping to the music... is it Blue Monday? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.200.174 (talk) 19:02, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

BBC Quote - Flabby Journalism/ BBC '70s Disco Fixation
I am concerned about this quote included in the article:

"Blue Monday" has been described by BBC Radio 2 as "a crucial link between Seventies disco and the Dance/House boom that took off at the end of the Eighties."

The full quote is: "The track is widely regarded as a crucial link between Seventies disco and the Dance/House boom that took off at the end of the Eighties."

By whom is it regarded as a "crucial link"? Indeed, at the time, I recall myself and my peers being hugely impressed by the breakaway originality of the song. Not a great deal is made of that in the article. The BBC comment is flabby, '70s fixated (the organisation has been criticized for "bigging up the '70s" and "70s hype"), and inaccurate. Dance and House were charting in 1986/1987 - and it could be said "booming" (whatever that means!). Those years can hardly be described as "the end of the Eighties". In 1988/1989 the sound moved on to more Dance and Acid House.

I regard this article as unreliable as it practically ignores the groundbreaking aspects of Blue Monday. The BBC article dates from 2005 when it was regularly stated that the 1970s invented the wheel, and thinking has moved on since then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.181.142 (talk) 16:20, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

"Unofficial releases" (added by IP)
This substantial list was added by an IP. It was removed for being unreferenced, but I've copied it here because it strikes me as potentially useful and relevant if we can reference it up. Bits definitely noteworthy (e.g. 1992 cover reaching top 30) if we can find a ref - David Gerard (talk) 11:33, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

1983: Divine re-recorded his single, the Bobby Orlando produced "Love Reaction" in a style very similar to Blue Monday. Sumner once sang "Love Reaction" on "Blue Monday" in 1983 in a live performance.

1986: Blue Monday (Cadillac Ranch) by Lord Horror with the Savoy Hitler Youth Band. 12" single on Savoy Entropy Records. Recorded at Peter Hook's studio in Rochdale and incorporating some of the original "Blue Monday" samples.

1988: Blue Monday So Hot Mix by 808 State, not realised until 2004 as a 12" Single

1990: Sample of Blue Monday used in the Front Line Assembly single "Iceolate"

1991: The rhythm and beat of Blue Monday '88 are sampled throughout Falco's "Wiener Blut" Club Remix.

1992: Electroset covers Blue Monday under the name "How Does It Feel?". This entered the top 30 in the UK. "Lundi Bleu" was covered by The Times (Edward Ball's band)

1996: The Don Presents The Phat Headz 3 "Does It Feel".

1998: Orgy covered Blue Monday on their album Candyass, which became the band's biggest hit and arguably the biggest hit remake of the original song. In addition, the DJ Dan remix of the Orgy version samples the original New Order version in the mix. Blue Monday interpolated with "Walking on Sunshine" in "Blue Sunshine" by Viper.

2001: The Picard Song samples Blue Monday. Cover of Blue Monday by Hangedup on Hangedup (album). Cover of Blue Monday by Wave in Head on the tribute album True Faith: A Tribute To New Order.

2002: Interpolated with Can't Get You Out of My Head by Kylie Minogue, originally a Soulwax mashup, its official title is "Can't Get Blue Monday Out Of My Head". Also appears on the Layer Cake soundtrack. Cover of Blue Monday by Flunk on For Sleepyheads Only Covered in Gregorian chant style by Gregorian on Masters of Chant Chapter III. Covered by Swan Lee

2003: Covered in Eurodance style by Eu4ya.

2004: "Whole" by Benjamin Bates, remixing Blue Monday on the flipside. "Idealistic" sampled Blue Monday, a Digitalism 12-inch single "Blue Monday" featured on the Walking Tall (2004) Soundtrack performed as a ballad by Flunk.

2005: Tanghetto covered this song on their album Buenos Aires Remixed, with the bandoneon taking the role of the lead vocals and featuring an erhu (Chinese bowed string instrument) solo in the mid-section. This cover version also appeared in the film La mujer de mi hermano. Country Teasers covered the song on Live Album. Cosmosis (band) remixed the song on Trancedance, track named "Re-Order", number 7. JamX & De Leon remixed the song titled JamX & De Leon vs. New Order - Blue Monday.

2006: Covered by Nouvelle Vague Sampled by Trentemøller for a mix of "The Sodom and Gomorrah Show" by Pet Shop Boys. Mathilde Santing covered the song on her album Under your Charms.

2007: Interpolation on Shut Up and Drive by Rihanna. Cover by Lostprophets Sampled by Digitalism in "Idealistic" realised on Idealism Sampled by M.I.A. in "20 Dollar" on her album Kala Covered by Tripudio on Edge of Never (as "Blue"). Covered again by Flunk for the Nancy Drew soundtrack Sampled by Imperative Reaction in the song "Judas".[citation needed] Interpolation by The Tenth Stage for a remix of "Elixir" by Angelspit. Sampled on 2 Many DJs' As Heard on Radio Soulwax Pt. 2. Jonathan Davis from Korn covered Blue Monday for the Alone I Play tour.

2008: Cover by The Cloud Room released as an mp3 download and online video. Blue Monday is remixed by Kurd Maverick. Up Dharma Down from the Philippines, sampled the intro of Blue Monday with their live performance of their own song "Every First Second". Miguel Escueta from the Philippines. Cover called 'True faith' by DJ Manian's act Liz Kay.

2009: Cover by Luka Megurine. Covered by German synth-pop group And One for their 2009 album, Bodypop 1½. Covered by The Enemy for their 2009 single "No Time For Tears" 's EP release. DJ Schmolli mashed-up this song along with Iron Butterfly's "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" and is titled "In-A-Gadda-Blue-Monday". An unofficial mash up of the song with Gaston Cespedes' "Peluca y Tacón - featuring Dimmy", titled "P.Y.T" was released by Julio Caro from online radio station "Dance Radio Chile".

2010: Leighton Meester "Set it on fire". Jolly Boys live at Big Chill festival 2010. User-controlled 3D environment remix created by artist Aaron Nemec.

2011: Covered by Australian progressive-house duo Flatline.

Cover query - is the silver inner sleeve the US release? The UK was black, i believe
As far as i know, the original relase in the UK had a black inner sleeve and not a silver one - i was around at the time and my friend had it. Is this entry describing the US release?

Also, the follow up 'cheaper cover' in the UK was all black (no silver fake cut out) with the side design - i have a copy of this in my hand now, bought at the time.

So, should the covers be described seperately for UK and US release ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.93.173.230 (talk) 09:56, 21 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Ooh, possibly. I have the original UK 12" here somewhere - I'm looking at the wall of boxes right now and trying to guess which box it's in ... - David Gerard (talk) 11:55, 21 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I can't find my copy (and I'm not digging through the boxes I think it might be in right now), but I have a cite for it being intended to be silver, as well as me remembering it as silver :-D The Australian sleeve had printed silver in place of the gaps (but it also had the band name and song printed in a circle around the centre). Did the US release ever have a cutout sleeve? Was there in fact a US release of the original 1983 version at all? - ah, there was: 1985 on Qwest - first issue with cutouts, second with silver (and our pic appears to be the one on discogs) - David Gerard (talk) 14:32, 21 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I've got a copy of the US cut-out version, with a flat black inner sleeve, as the link above. Images of it wouldn't be clear at all.  The entries on the Discogs website matches my memory of the US releases -- Foetusized (talk) 16:08, 21 January 2013 (UTC)


 * A friend tells me he has a UK 12" with a black inner: Not WP:V-worthy, but I consider it pretty good evidence :-) - David Gerard (talk) 19:22, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Video
Are you sure that there was no official '83 video? On youtube there can be found some clips that are named "1983 video". Furthermore some editors cite the 83 video as the one with the harriers. I checked with some arcade game experts and they say there are some sequences of the C64 port of Super Zaxxon in it. However that game came out in 1984 so I am uncertain when the release of the video was.. 9ofzeven 11:27, 8 July 2007 (UTC)


 * This question has been answered in the MW forums and it's quite certain that the Zaxxon appearing is the Apple II port. I edited the section to include some information about the 1983 video.--Pi (π) 07:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I would have done that too, but you were a little faster than me. Moreover you're a native speaker and I am not so your contribution probably is of better quality. Thanks! 9ofzeven 11:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure there is a video from '83. Also, somebody here should find the edited version of Blue Monday from the video. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.116.140.74 (talk) 23:26, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm sure I haven't imagined this...
But I swear I heard one of the band members saying in a filmed interview that the programmed elements of the song were lost once completed and that they then had to redo it all again. Ring any bells UK TV viewers and New Order fans? - Aaron Jethro 23:31, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
 * More likely that it was mentioned in NewOrderStory, I'll check sometime. --Kiand 23:45, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
 * This just in from The Guardian newspaper, (24 February):


 * Peter Hook (bassist, New Order): Bernard [Sumner] and Stephen [Morris] were the instigators. It was their enthusiasm for new technology. The drum pattern was ripped off from a Donna Summer B-side. We'd finished the drum pattern and we were really happy, then Steve accidentally kicked out the drum machine lead so we had to start from scratch and it was never as good. The technology was forever breaking down and the studio was really archaic. Kraftwerk booked it after us because they wanted to emulate Blue Monday. They gave up after four or five days. It was a collection of soundbites - it sort of grew and grew. When we got to the end I went in and jammed the bass; I stole a riff from Ennio Morricone. Bernard went in and jammed the vocals. They're not about Ian Curtis; we wanted it to be vague. I was reading about Fats Domino. He had a song called Blue Monday and it was a Monday and we were all miserable so I thought, "Oh that's quite apt."


 * - Aaron Jethro 01:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


 * This is also mentioned in a GQ interview so perhaps it should be included the article:
 * He spent all day programming a backing track and then he caught a power cable to the DMX drum machine with his bloody foot, ripped the power cable out and lost all the drum programming. So we had to start again on the drums. We managed to get most of it but we lost the original drum for "Blue Monday". It was different.
 * - Xcaa (talk) 21:16, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

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B SIDE THE BEACH on the movie THE BEACH ?
is there any link between NEW ORDER THE BEACH and THE MOVIE THE BEACH ?

The New Order song "Brutal" was in the movie The Beach. See this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRmvdyNNGrk) of New Order concert at Finsbury Park in 2002. Song intro at 29:05. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.187.137 (talk) 19:56, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

i M NOT sure but i have read that the producers had interest to use the THE BEACH song in order to show how lEONARDO DICAPRIO runs in a forest in thailand in the movie however they likely declined this wish and in order to this they made a new song BRUTAL for the soundtrack

any informations ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.2.134.90 (talk) 15:38, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * None that I've heard of, and none in that article either, sorry (The Beach (film)) - there's nothing to say they're linked at all - David Gerard (talk) 01:10, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Urban myth price of cover of the floppy disk
I think its a urban myth, that the price for the floppy disk extended the price of the actual disk and that therefore the band lost money with each sold record

my LA based uncle had been a huge NEW ORDER Fan in his youth and he met the band at a KROQ sponsored tour of them in the US and he met the singer and he told him that it was just a urban myth and that actually the floppy disk design sleeve designed by PETER SAVILLE was not as expensive

it was just paperback and nothing more — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.2.134.88 (talk) 15:16, 29 December 2015 (UTC)


 * The claim is supported by a reliable published source (Matthew Robertson (2007), Factory Records: The Complete Graphic Album, San Francisco: Chronicle Books. p. 224.), so it's very unlikely this will be dropped in favour of personal hearsay based on a personal family anecdote. If your uncle's story ever appears in print, or until you find a contradictory source, that might change. But until then the article seems to be quite fair. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:46, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

In this interview with Peter Hook, bassist from New Order, he says they DID in fact lose money on Blue Monday. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkXs6ya9ghw) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.187.137 (talk) 20:15, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

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Inspiration for Blue Monday?
There's quite a buzz in the blogosphere that Blue Monday is very similar to a track by fellow Manchester band Gerry and the Holograms which was released 4 years before Blue Monday. Can we include this? 86.159.39.99 (talk) 13:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

After listening to this song, I am quite disappointed as to how much the two songs sound a like.. I really thought that Blue Monday was something unique and original. I guess just more popular? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.114.172.174 (talk) 04:02, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

The synth bassline underpinning Blue Monday also bears quite a resemblance to the one used in 'The Weapon' on Rush's Signals album. This was released in 1982, the year before Blue Monday. However, it seems very unlikely that New Order were Rush fans! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billrattlelance (talk • contribs) 12:10, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Which was in turn inspired by Ceoil (talk) 21:09, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * And I always thought that Sylvie and the boys were just "Low-Life". Martinevans123 (talk) 21:20, 18 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Or Gerry and the Holograms - David Gerard (talk) 12:28, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Wow. The kylie track fits amazingly Ceoil (talk) 08:19, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Here's a denial from Sumner, that might be included:, from a reasonable non-blog, source. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:44, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Did it instead of you guys. You're welcome. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blue_Monday_(New_Order_song)&oldid=827301294 213.149.51.107 (talk) 23:02, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Personnel
I think there should be a change inthe personnel person as Peter Hook play no 4 stringed bass on the track, Bernard Sumner plays no guitar or meladica, and Stephen Morris play no Drums — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.131.229.104 (talk) 02:35, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Witold Szwedkowski
I see that "Witold Szwedkowski" now appears at Sonnet, Limerick (poetry) and Haptic poetry. Not sure that makes him notable. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:41, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

"Official Lyric Video"
Here's the "Official Lyric Video" (30,891,217 views since 15 Sept 2020). Is the YT channel neworder an official channel and could the video be linked in the article? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:42, 24 January 2022 (UTC)