Talk:Blue rose

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Bouquet of Blue Roses were an Irish Goth Band — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.107.157.114 (talk) 11:45, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

"Mystery"?
If blue roses didn't exist until 2004, how could they "traditionaly signify mystery"? --81.136.195.168 13:59, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Something doesn't need to exist to be considered a mystery: all that's needed is that people traditionaly talk about it this way if only in tales or legends. Dragons traditionaly signify power, fire, or greed; succubi and incubi traditionaly signify lust or sexuality - even though they never existed.

My guess would be that long ago, people found other flowers that were blue - hence .. the mystery of the blue rose .. [[User:Ufoome] 11/10/05

White roses were dyed blue, much as white carnations.

The Blue rose is a mythological symbol, something florists have tried for centuries to cultivate. I know of a Discover magazine with more information on them: when I find it in my library, I'll add its information to the article.

Basically, they were "mystery" because no one could figure out how to breed one naturally. You had to dye them from white, so they were an enigma. ♠ P  M  C  ♠ 05:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

David Lynch reinforces the symbolism of the blue rose signifying mystery in Fire Walk With Me by having a character enigmatically describe certain FBI investigations as "blue rose cases", subsequently refusing to explain what this designation indicates. Asat 09:39, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Meaning of the blue rose
After I had a very nice, very confusing dream involving a blue rose, I decided to look around the Internets and see what exactly my subconcious was saying. I found multiple meanings for the blue rose--divine love, fantasy, the impossible, mystery, miracles, new possibilities, caution, and an appreciation for the enigmatic. Should we outline these meanings as well or leave them be? --Kiwi 21:29, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Jimmy Nail song
Jimmy Nail did a song on his album 'Crocodile Shoes II' called Blue Roses, where he sings; Blue roses will blossom in the snow, before I ever let you go, Blue roses will grow up to the sky, before I ever make you cry... I think the song also mentions this is from a nursery rhyme. Does anyone know what it is? I also get the feeling the song could be a cover. --JaffaCakeLover 14:47, 21 November 2006 (GMT)

Blue Rose and Baba Yaga
It might be some kind of urban legend or popular-science myth that in Slavic mythology Baba Yaga drinks tea made of blue roses and rewards heroes who bring blue roses to her. Though this statement is largely copied over English-speaking internet, it causes perplexity in Russian part of it (for example, here: ). There is no direct source of such information and maybe the same article is the main source of the myth. One possible explanation of the legend is given here: where it is stated that there was a computer game in the beginning of 1990s where indeed one of the NPC's was called Baba Yaga and could give a prize to a player if a player had delivered a blue rose to this NPC. A.I.K. (talk) 11:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Anime Section
Does anyone else feel this section is becoming subject for anyone to add their random two cents? For example, I don't particularly see the significance of a blue rose appearing in the opening for season 2 of Death Note. You wouldn't also add that an apple, the moon, candy, etc also appears. 99.129.212.246 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:06, 28 December 2008 (UTC).

Blue roses and police wives
The blue rose has been adopted as a symbol of the wives and girlfriends of law enforcement officers. - www.policewives.org

Genetics
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/3329213/Worlds-first-blue-roses-after-20-years-of-research.html looks like the intro needs to be reformulated :(--SidiLemine 22:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Burgundy?
From the article:


 * Obtaining the exact hue was difficult because amounts of the pigment cyanidin were still present, so the rose was darker in color — burgundy — than true blue

Okay...what??? How is burgundy (dark red) "darker in color than true blue" and not an altogether different hue (let alone exact hue)? Was citing burgundy a mistake (typo?), or is the statement just totally misleading? I would certainly consider it an understatement that "genetic engineers had difficulty getting the exact hue of true blue", if they ended up with dark red instead. I would consider it outright misleading to say that burgundy is "darker in color" than true blue. Its not darker, its the wrong color altogether! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.112.85.245 (talk) 12:19, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Blood +
I think blood + should be added to television as the blue rose is somewhat of a plot device as its shown throughout the first season, expecially as Divas signature flower, I'd add it myself but I'm not that articulate with my writing. 219.88.193.172 (talk) 15:49, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Missing reference
Under "Cultural Significance" the article says something about the blue rose referencing royal blood, but the reference given in the following sentence doesn't support that claim, and neither does the article "Blue Flower" also mentioned also "See also". Misinformation? --213.160.54.117 (talk) 22:17, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Aladdin
I believe the aladdin links in the "in television" section needs to point to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin_%28TV_series%29 and not just http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin but i don't know, nor do i want to waste time learning how to do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.46.147 (talk) 01:58, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Blue Roses Band
I suspect that the bit under Music about a band called a Bouquet of Blue Roses needs to be deleted-- I cannot find any reference to anything like this anywhere other than this very article, and it's not cited, besides. 74.65.140.212 (talk) 20:33, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Could not find anything either so have deleted this entry AIR corn (talk) 23:37, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Contemporary Culture
The unreferenced contemporary culture section is getting long and a little random. Don't really want to delete the whole section, but would there be any complaints about shortening it or moving it to its own page. AIR corn (talk) 02:40, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Removed lots and put the rest into prose, adding refs when I could find them AIR corn (talk) 12:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Pan's Labyrinth
I can find no evidence that the rose in Pan's Labyrinth is blue. In the original Castilian, it is referred to as "black and rough", and it doesn't seem to be referred to by any colour in the English subtitles. Inconspicuous Flaneur (talk) 11:41, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

My mistake; the rose is noticeably blue. Inconspicuous Flaneur (talk) 20:07, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Blue roses
Blue roses mean sadness 2601:587:4200:38D0:C9AC:AF2D:B3AF:E2D4 (talk) 23:38, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Big Blue roses?
How come IBM isn't even mentioned in this article? 92.249.156.26 (talk) 22:15, 10 March 2024 (UTC)


 * what is zone for blue rose? 198.161.9.107 (talk) 01:00, 3 April 2024 (UTC)