Talk:Blushing

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I would guess that a very very high percentage of people who go to this Blushing article are looking for info as to how to stop it/prevent it. We need at least the smallest bit on this. Go to the article on Hemorrhoids for instance, there's a huge section on treatment. Clearly blushing is a phenomenon that causes some people grief; not having anything here on its potential treatment is a mistake. Taking the info away that was there on the grounds that 'it is potentially hazardous' is idiotic. What needs to be done is a thorough qualifying of the treatments section. e.g., "There is debate surrounding . ..

An earlier version of this article was posted at Erythrophobia. Talk:Erythrophobia contains a bit of discussion of the copyright status - it's believed to be GFDL, contributed by the author of a paper. Martin 23:21 5 Jun 2003 (UTC)


 * I've removed the content which was in the original version of the Erythrophobia article, since Dr. Gerlach stated, "I actually do not have the copyright for it any more (with publication in healthline)." Now I'm not sure whether we should check the rest, too... -- Oliver P. 01:16 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Incomplete article
This article doesn't talk about the functions or origins of blushing. Blushing has an important function in non-verbal communication and human social interactions. It is likely an evolutionary adaptation that enhances conflict resolution and alliance formation and maintenance. I'm pretty positive that plentiful research and theoretical literature can be found on the topic, and I am surprised that it has not been discussed here. Furthermore, the article should link up to the entries on shame and embarrassment and it should also contain a discussion of the role of blushing in these basic human emotions. ~ P —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.126.151.171 (talk) 04:48, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Amen to that!!! I looked at the Wikipedia article on Blushing specifically to learn what its role is in human interaction, and more specifically, what are the theories on how it evolved.


 * But there seems to be nothing whatsoever on these questions. I would give them considerably more weight than the detailed information on how bloodflow can result in blushing (although this, too, is certainly an important part of the article.)Daqu (talk) 09:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I didn't look at the Wikipedia article on Blushing to learn how it evolved and think you should shut your fucking flap trap, especially when you say "conflict resolution" and "alliance formation and maintenance". Peace out

I'm interested in the evolutionary purpose especially given that the article says "It has also been suggested that blushing and flushing are the visible manifestations of the physiological rebound of the basic instinctual fight/flight mechanism, when physical action is not possible." Maybe turning red makes me look strange and fierce to a lion and less like today's lunch.71.194.218.7 (talk) 22:28, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

How to stop blushing
This section should be removed, It's actually dangerous to mix pills with alcohol; and herbs and other stuff may confuse the readers. We should stick to facts.

Copyvio
The sections "When blushing becomes a problem" and "How to stop blushing" were copied wholesale from http://www.facialblush.com/. I have removed them. Anyways, I agree with the above poster: the advice given there is dangerous. Mixing pills and alcohol is an extremely bad idea... If anyone can produce evidence that the sections are GFDL and that the advice really is safe, then it should be reinstated. But aside from that, this should be removed. Andrew Morritt 02:50, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Article needs work
I found this article to be terribly verbose, with an overly-anatomical emphasis. What about a section on societal cues for blushing, personalities of blushers, etc?

I agree. A very poorly written article. I'm interested in the issue of blushing but got bored of reading this after the first paragraph.


 * I also agree very strongly. The article is dry, medical, scientific.  Blushing is about emotion; it's a very strong nonverbal signal and I think the article should talk about this more than acting like it's purely a mechanism or something.  Cazort (talk) 01:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

--- Here here, this article is full of superfluous information. Way too technical for anyone wanting to find out about blushing. I feel a lot of the subtleties on cutaneous blood flow, etc., could be covered in a seperate article. Also, the part on "blushing bride" needs to be moved to the end of the article. [[User: The Edit Competitor] The Edit Competitor]


 * Yes, the bride comes out of nowhere; she is not even introduced as the "blushing bride" -- just "bride." The article seems to hit the issue on both extremities --physiology and imagery-- while neglecting the everyday reality of blushing in the lives of those prone to it (especially the young) and those exposed to it.


 * Also, as far as adding a picture of a cute girl goes, additionally it might be good if there were pictures of blushing folks of varied pigmentation (maybe even before and after?). Christian Campbell 06:10, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Question
Just out of curiosity, is it noticeable if a black person blushes? 09/13/2012I am a fair skinned black female and I suffer from very noticeable blushing for mainly all of my emotions...so that answers that! JCM: [Hm. This is a strange question. I think it is, however. I believe I've seen it?]

I've wondered the same thing, and as far as I an tell I've never witnessed it. I don't see what people of different 'races' should differ in their physiological response to stress, real or perceived, but I really don't think I've ever seen a black person go red.


 * The darker the skin is, the less transparent the skin is, which means it's harder to see the red blood vessels under the skin. 65.40.195.176 23:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Obviously, its all about the skin tone, but I'm black and can blush noticeably, but my sister, not at all. Millancad 18:51, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Does the blushing process even occur in relatively genetically isolated populations of very dark-skinned people? I would hypothesize that the purpose of visible blushing is to signal the experience of an emotional reaction. If this is true, if other selective pressues maintained a very dark skin color in a population, there would be no selective pressure for the blush reaction on a physiological level - meaning not only no coloring of the cheeks, but also no feeling of "burning" or heat. Can anyone here from such a population shed some light? --65.6.110.55 (talk) 21:59, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No one is actually going to say anything about that, because doing so would mean trespassing the political correctness lines, which is a NO-NO in Wikipedia. --69.121.51.151 (talk) 07:37, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

what about blushing in diffrent skin color ?
I am a fair skinned black female and I suffer from very noticeable blushing for mainly all of my emotions...so that answers that! i found only this: http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1473-2130.2004.00040.x, but this pdf is pay-per-view.

my question is what are the changes in skin color in black persons, is blushing visible on the very dark skin, like in this man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kenyan_man_2.jpg

this info should be in the article, now it is too white-centric pwjb 13:06, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * there is blusing in different skin tones, i have seen it happen a lot.now that i am made aware of this . i have looked in the mirrow and seen my face blushed. i am a light brown- black.i have seen lighted skinned black women cheeks turned pink when they blushed. i have seen brown skinned women cheeks go lighter in color, i have seen their cheeks turn maroon in color.this is not fiction this is fact.u dont have to ask no more. the answer is definitely yes people of different skintones do visibly blush. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.242.182.106 (talk) 18:20, 18 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I know that in people with relatively light color tones blushing is visible, but I think also that with darker skin blushing becomes less and less visible, that is there is more extra blood flow needed to see a difference, and eventually when the skin is very dark as with people that live in northern part of sub-Saharan Africa cannot be seen at all. pwjbbb (talk) 17:51, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Surgery
I remember reading an article two or three years ago that surgery was available to remove a gland (or something) in the neck, this being, apparently, the physiological cause of blushing. Perhaps someone with more time than I might be able to find a verifiable source to confirm this. 86.29.89.237 16:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I had the operation afew years ago. Its called an endoscopic thorasic ....(I forget teh rest).  They make an incision about 6 inches below the armpit and insert a tube... they find the right nerve and quarterize it.  Different results depending on how high up the ganglion chain they go, but there are risks the higher you go.... It can cause droopyness in the eyelids.
 * It was pretty successful. I'd give it a 7 / 10.  Not perfect but Alot better.  Also.... when I play vigourous sport now I don't go beetroot.  It was always embarrassing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.12.233.21 (talk) 03:46, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Question
What about when your face goes red from lack of air??

why is that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.147.140.110 (talk) 01:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Erythrophobia deserves a page
People have committed suicide because of erythrophobia, and is the subject of behavioral medicine studies (example). Me thinks it deserves more than a token mention in the present article. SteveChervitzTrutane (talk) 07:59, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Please merge with "flushing"
Please merge this article into the medicinal term "flushing". Thx, 178.197.226.142 (talk) 13:42, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note that the article says this: "Blushing is generally distinguished, despite a close physiological relation, from flushing, which is more intensive and extends over more of the body, and seldom has a mental source." Martinevans123 (talk) 13:49, 21 August 2013 (UTC)