Talk:BoA albums discography

Moving page
If nobody complains, I will be moving the page to BoA discography to match Category:Discographies. -- ReyBrujo 05:16, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Nope, no one is complaing and its done. -- Darknshadow 00:44, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Mini-albums?
It's true that they are not real albums, but under Korea's album naming conventions, they are still considered full albums, given the .5 designation. Therefore, I don't see why they're split up into "Full" and "mini" when the ".5" should suffice. SKS2K6 02:49, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Pictures
If The Beatles can have pictures in their discography, why can't everyone else? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.231.37.93 (talk • contribs).
 * "If XXX can, why not us?" is not a good rationale for restoring covers. -- ReyBrujo 02:52, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

On the contrary. If adding pictures to discography is now, as you said on the other page, considered purely decorative Wikipedia policy, surely things need to be standardized across the board, especially regarding the most popular music act of the 20th century. By the way, I did read the article about Fair Use Policy: has anyone reached any kind of consensus as to what constitutes "decorative" means? By that I mean a discussion page where a sysop(or community debate that went to a vote, whichever) officially declared discography pictures as persona non grata. In some cases you could surely argue the covers are important parts of the artistic package. I suppose you could argue that having the pictures on the revelant CD/album pages would be enough, but surely having the pictures in one article displays a quick visual guide to the evolution of the artist(again I must point to Pink Floyd and The Beatles as an example) without taking place in the main artist page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.231.37.93 (talk • contribs).
 * You can discuss discography usage at Fair use talk page. -- ReyBrujo 02:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

BoA videos
Shouldn't BoA videos be merged here? I do not think we need two lists in the same way we don't need a single and an album list. -- ReyBrujo (talk) 03:38, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


 * That's what I figured too, but when I did it on another artist's page, it got deleted. I have no problem if you want to merge it, :) Rosalietruong (talk) 03:55, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, BoA videos just confuses readers by saying that it's the discography, where the discography is on the actual discography website. Eugeniu B (talk) 01:32, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Whoever messed up the organized discography should put it back the way it was. Her Korean discography is separate from her Japanese and American discographies, and should remain that way for easy readability. As far as the mini-albums are concerned, they should be inserted into her Korean discography as general releases.

I understand that with many artists, their foreign releases are compressed into their domestic releases as one whole list of recordings, but under many circumstances, it is difficult to find a particular album or a song from a particular album when you have to sort through and guess which one was in what language. 69.244.36.40 (talk) 21:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Request for a minor edit.
I'm not sure if it belongs here, but I don't know how to do it myself. Could someone place her Everlasting within the Outgrow album row? Currently, it says it's from Made in Twenty album, but it's not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.21.142.117 (talk) 20:35, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks for asking! Eugeniu B   +1  20:41, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Discog style update!
Okay, so I've updated the discography style to be more in-line with global featured list-level discographies, adding in RIAJ certifications, Taiwan positions and referenced sales and positions. Here are a couple of changes I've made:
 * Singles The concept of singles is difficult for the discography due to their varying meaning in Korea and Japan. In Japan this usually refers to a physical CD, which in Korea is called a 'single album', however the label can be given to digital releases ("I See Me") or visual media ("Milestone", a DVD single+CD/digital single). This definition however excludes releases we would expect to be here, such as "Girls on Top" and "Hurricane Venus", songs widely successful in Korea with music videos, radio play and TV promotions. These 'leading' songs are clearly important to BoA's career (even more so than songs definitely in the 'singles' category), and should be listed in the singles section. For early releases, the RIAK used to list a leading song from a release next to an album's name, and a number of digital outlets such as Bugs bold the most important promotional tracks from a release. By using this definition, the Korean songs "ID; Peace B", "Don't Start Now", "No.1", "Shine We Are!", "Atlantis Princess", "Milky Way", "My Name", "Spark", "Game", "Hurricane Venus", "Copy & Paste", and "Geuleon Neo (Disturbance)" qualify. Any other promoted songs that were not as important or were not as successful, such as "The Shadow", are listed in the 'promotional singles' section. Multiple billed A-sides such as "Shine We Are!" / "Earthsong", singles which were featured on a single CD, are listed separately. This makes the list more flexible and accurate in its displayed information: we can now display the fact that "Earthsong" is not a single from Love & Honesty, and note each song's respective positions on Gaon and Billboard charts, which rank each song differently, as opposed to CD-tracking charts Oricon and G-Music, which ranks all of the songs together.


 * Chronology As BoA is an internationally successful musician, her albums and songs have been released and promoted outside of Korea and Japan. In the old discography Korean and Japanese albums were separated, but this makes little sense in a global sense (i.e. listeners in Taiwan, the Philippines, Singapore, etc), illustrated by how the releases charted on Taiwan's G-Music chart. A precedent for this can be seen at Shakira discography, Jennifer Lopez discography and Celine Dion albums discography: featured list discographies where albums are listed without separating into English/Spanish/French categories. In the new style, I listed singles chronologically after their first release, regardless of region, modelling after Robyn discography, which presents singles in this style regardless of their release/re-release (singles from Robyn were first released in Sweden in 2005, followed by a different set and order in 2007 for the UK release). This follows on from the logic of a release history section in album articles, which list the first release in the info box only.


 * Sales and positions All sales and positions must be sourced, so references to unsourced material in the old discography have been removed. This however makes pre-2009 Korean positions quite difficult, and a position for BoA practically impossible! If anyone knows of a veritable source for these, please comment! If someone can get a verifiable reference for the weekly Hanteo position of BoA, this would be great to have a note about. I removed the Korea K-Pop Hot 100 due to it being discontinued in June 2014, as well as the fact that it showed basically the same data as Gaon, which was active earlier than the Billboard chart and continues to exist. The Oricon sales are all accurate and up to date as of October, and I added import sales for releases like My Name, sourced from the raw data.


 * Transliterations and kanji/hangul Japanese transliterations into rōmaji should be in Hepburn or styles a specifc way officially. For the Korean ones, I simply put the way Google transliterated them, but there might be a better pre-established romanisation. WP:MJ says that Japanese terms in lists should have their kanji listed next to them even if they have articles, which I applied to the hangul titles as well. I listed translations for the Korean titles too, based on what they said in hanja/what people on the internet said, but there might be better ways to translate them.

Feel free to comment on or discuss the changes! If the article is stable for a few months, I can submit it for the featured list article process. --Prosperosity (talk) 04:26, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

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