Talk:Boardwalk Hall Auditorium Organ

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Velseystudiohammond (talk • contribs) 20:31, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Bassoon
Does the echo bassoon stop really have papier-mache resonators? It sounds strange, but I don't doubt it is true, but I wondered if it was vandalism. Perhaps a reference if it is true might be useful. — Mdcollins1984 11:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


 * S.D.Smith's recommended book has several references to it, and a picture on p.373. HuPi (talk) 14:45, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Article title
It is my view that this article should not be titled Auditorium Organ. To my mind, that implies a specific type of organ, e.g. Pipe organ/Theatre organ etc, not a specific organ. I propose that you move this to Boardwalk Hall organ, or Atlantic City organ. Please consider this.

Also, could you stop deleting the references in Pipe organ to the Sydney Town Hall 64' stop? It is a perfectly valid point for that article, and if you can argue why it shouldn't be there, please do so, rather than consistently deleting the reference.

Many thanks Mdcollins1984 14:09, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Replies
The echo bassoon does actually have papier-mache resonators. I know it sounds strange, but it's actually true. See also the official site: http://www.acchos.org/html/introduction/highlights.html

I changed the title to Boardwalk Hall Organ, although I kept the references to Main Auditorium Organ in the article itself, as the Boardwalk Hall contains two organs.

And about the Contra-Trombone, I just think a reference to a Contra-Trombone is not appropriate in a section about Diaphone pipes. I also downsized the reference to the 64' Diaphone-Dulzian. You could add a reference to the Contra-Trombone in the section "Reed Pipes".

Greetings, TeslaMaster

10 November, 16:53 (GMT +1)


 * Thanks for that, the move certainly clears some issues up. Thank you for your explanation of the Contra-Trombone removals, I'll make that more clear in the Pipe organ article.  I have slightly reworded the lead paragraph, to reference and link the papier-mache resonators (very interesting).

Mdcollins1984 09:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

ATOS
The right stage chamber of the organ is to be working by July this year, hopefully it will be played for the American Theatre Organ Society`s anual convention. Also the 5 manual console is to be restored and updated to alow full interface with the organ. the upper chambers are accessable, the asbestos was removed in the halls restoration(the one that rendered the organ unplayable. It is also hoped that the restoration of the 4 manual Kimbal in the ballroom will start this year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.241.90 (talk • contribs) 15:43, March 6, 2007‎ (UTC)


 * Do you have a source on that? On the ACCHOS site the latest news is from December 2006, about the 100,000 dollar grant. I read in the ACCHOS paper (The Grand Ophicleide) that the Right Stage chamber was seriously damaged during the restoration of the Boardwalk Hall. Workers cut windlines, and just threw them in a corner, without plans to reroute or repair the lines. And, as read in the article, cement dust also got into the pipes and the electronics that control them. It would take a lot of time and resources to fix it... TeslaMaster


 * It was supposed to be playing, but after a more recent email from Charles shcwisher, its not working yet, but they are hoping for the end of this year, the tour is still happening. I'm just going by what Charles has been saying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.240.26 (talk • contribs) 09:01, May 20, 2007‎ (UTC)

New curator
Carl Leoser has been appointed the position of curator for both the Midmer losh organ and the Kimball organs at Boardwalk Hall. He will oversee the restoration of the kimball organ and the Midmer Losh organ. Work has started in the chambers of the midmer losh with the installation of fire suppression and lighting systems. The Kimballs restoration plans have been approved and funded and the Midmer Losh Right Stage Chamber is scheduled to be brought "back online" to its condition prior to the hall renovation in 1998. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.242.43 (talk • contribs) 13:41, June 19, 2007‎ (UTC)

G. Ophicleide
A sound engineer has worked out how loud the ophicleide would be. It works out at around 130 dB at a 1 meter range. He estimates that the whole organ would fill the hall with 120 dB of sound. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.241.209 (talk • contribs) 15:41, June 24, 2007‎ (UTC)

Midmer-Losh, theatre organ?
The Midmer Losh is Not a theatre organ and was never designed as one. The organ is designed as a straight organ, but it does have extended ranks, mostly to make pedal departments available on the extended manuals. It is a municipal organ, it has to provide music for all events held in the hall, wether it be a football game, religious programme, an orchestral score, a car race, ice skating, hockey games, concerts and of course as a solo instrument. It does have some theatre ranks, but its more of an American Classic designed, it has lots of diapason choruses and mixtures. It is really every type o organ you can think of, baroque, symphonic, calssic, romanatic, orchestral, cathedral. It really should be called a municipal organ, and is the "crowning example of the municipal organ". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.241.73 (talk • contribs) 22:17, August 3, 2007‎ (UTC)


 * Thanks for the information. I'm Dutch, and I don't know very much about the types of organ that exist (since we have almost exclusively have church organs here). Since it also contained percussion instruments and such, I though it was a theatre organ. But then, because it is so big, it contains elements of almost every type of organ. TeslaMaster

Upper chambers
The upper chambers were in the original design. The left and right forward chambers were added later and not the upper chambers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.241.73 (talk • contribs) 22:21, August 3, 2007‎ (UTC)

Tours
Tours are now available of the Midmer Losh organ in Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic city. see http://www.acchos.org/html/tours.html for further info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.241.38 (talk) 13:09, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Left stage chamber, 64-foot Dulzian/Diaphone
Power has been returned to the left stage chamber and the 64ft Dulzian/Diaphone works perfectly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.241.92 (talk) 22:28, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Flickr photos Of the Midmer-Losh
A photo set of the midmer losh, taken during teh American Theatre Organ Socities 2007 tour of the instrument can be viewed here http://www.flickr.com/photos/rossmcneillie/sets/72157602455998626/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.240.83 (talk) 20:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC) Are there any historical photos of events involving the organ? My mother always remembered singing as a soloist in a WWII concert for the troops at the Hall because she was proud to have sung with this instrument. It would probably be before 1945, (she didn't say if it was one-time or annual), possibly on Easter Sunday.SvensKenR (talk) 19:33, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

The Midmer-Losh and the Kimball organ
The Kimball organ in the ballroom is currently undergoing restoration, a new solid state relay will be installed. The right stage chamber of the Midmer-Losh is in operational condition, and awaits new magnets and tuning to get it back to playable condition. Work has also started on the Left stage chamber. The first part of the Midmer-Losh to be rebuilt will be the swell-choir divisions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.19.134.56 (talk) 14:54, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Unification
Judging from the stop list on the official website, this organ is heavily unified: many stops "borrow" from the same ranks. For example, the Tibia rank (rank 1) in the Pedal Right division has 10 different stops. Should we add a note about this somewhere in the article? 76.233.115.247 (talk) 05:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Rewrite
I am working on a complete rewrite of this article; mainly reorganizing the existing content and adding all the missing references. I will also add stub articles including Emerson L. Richards and Midmer-Losh Organ Company to go along with the main article. If anyone else is making similar efforts, please coordinate with me via my talk page. M47715c00l (talk) 04:42, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Current state
So this thing was able to be successfully built during THE GREAT DEPRESSION, but now it is in disrepair? How could no one have enough interest in it to restore it or to have been more careful? Is it because atlantic city is a shithole? A gimmicky gambling town? Daniel Christensen (talk) 05:14, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ references
Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ Society is used in a lot of the references. That site (www.acchos.org) is now an ecig site. According to the Wayback Machine, the last update as the Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ Society was Feb 7 2012. After that there is a large gap and the next Wayback entry is in March of 2014 and at that time it's the ecig site. I've done some searching but haven't found where the Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ site is currently. I did find Boardwalk Pipes that seems indicates things were done to improve the organ in 2013 and possibly 2014 as well. It doesn't cite where it gets the info from. TakingUpSpace (talk) 14:18, 11 August 2014 (UTC)


 * The erstwhile A.C.C.H.O.S. filed for dissolution along with its 2011 EO 990 (filed 2012/12) tax filing. As of the date of this writing, several sources cite the "boardwalkpipes" site in its stead. All of the www.acchos.com links default to the e-cigarette home page. Rt3368 (talk) 01:56, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

More pictures
https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=Convention%20Hall%20Organ%20Society%20Tour ~Kvng (talk) 02:27, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Rewrite needed 2016; clarify obscure jargon
My deep thanks to whomever person(s) who wrote this article. My request is that you re-write certain sections which are quite difficult to understand by a non-specialist in thie field. For example the article says:


 * Also, some divisions are playable on two manuals. For example, the Choir-Swell division is usually played from the Choir manual, but it has been duplexed stop key for stop key to the Swell manual, so that all the stops can also be played from there as the Swell-Choir, no matter what stops are drawn on the Choir manual. The same is true for the Great-Solo, which is usually played from the Great manual, but can also be played as the Solo-Great from the Solo manual.[8]


 * Although the four Gallery divisions can be played from any manual, their "home" is the Bombard manual. Not only are they the only divisions playable from it, but its keyslip contains the pistons for the Gallery organ.[9]

Twas Brillig & the slithy toves did gyre & gimbol in the wabe. (PeacePeace (talk) 19:30, 4 September 2016 (UTC))

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Asof
There's a section entitled "State in 2014", but it's not clear what the actual time frame is, especially considering the use of "currently" on occasion. -- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:44, 13 October 2017 (UTC)


 * As of May 2018, I believe the renovation is substantially complete. I hope Scott Banks, the official director of outreach for HORC (the restoration committee), will have an opportunity to update this article for us bystanders. I am attempting to contact him thru a mutual friend.--D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 04:34, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

The world's 3rd 64': Real Untersatz 64'
In 2022, real stopped 64' pipes were built by Skrabl for their organ in St. Moritz, (Olomouc, Switzerland): https://skrabl.com/untersatz-64/ These pipes are stopped but neither digital nor resultant, and they produce 64' fundamental, as a bourdon, subbass, or quintaton of that pitch might. This is a cool triumph for the organ world!!! Could we modify the article to say one of 3-full compass 64s instead of one of 2 full-compass 64s? 128.187.116.11 (talk) 06:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)