Talk:Boat/Archive 1

images
The Rotting image of the boar really should be removed, kinda depressing dont you think? July 28th 2005

that bathtub race image should really be moved to bathtub race. maybe someone can make an article. Kingturtle 05:43, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)

With the two pictures at the top of the article, the text is really messed up. Perhaps one can be moved or deleted? DryGrain 11:14, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Gravy boat
I grew up in the US, and have yet to visit the UK, but I know the term gravy boat. Any other non-UK English speakers know it? I think we can generalize if we get a few respondents. -- Ventura 14:09, 2005 Apr 30 (UTC)
 * Gravy boat, as in a bowl for gravy? Yes, the term is common enough in my experience here in the Midwest. Both my grandmothers (both American) had gravy boats, and called them that. Jonathunder 03:01, 2005 May 1 (UTC)
 * Also, a quick google search for "gravy boat" returns lots of sites in the United States, including lots of opportunities to buy one. Not just a UK term, not an unusual term. Jonathunder 03:15, 2005 May 1 (UTC)

LinkFix dump

 * User:Ambush Commander/LinkFix dump

================================================================================ LinkFix Dump Boat 2005-09-01.22-23-49

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=================================================================== 3  Hull (ship) -> Hull (watercraft) 18 Bangca -> Outrigger canoe 25 Cruising -> DISAMBIG 38 Jetski -> Jet ski 74 Rowing -> DISAMBIG 75 Boomer -> DISAMBIG 76 Crew -> DISAMBIG 76 Warship -> Naval ship 83 Nanaimo -> Nanaimo, British Columbia 121 Ironclad -> Ironclad warship 132 Cruising -> DISAMBIG 134 Jet boat -> Jetboat
 * 1) DONE

&mdash; Ambush Commander (Talk) 02:38, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

Dirk
In Frisian, a 'dirk' is what is called in Dutch a 'kraanlijn', a line that keeps the boom up when the sail is not hoisted. I added this to the Dirk article, but don't know what this is called in English. Anyone? DirkvdM 08:02, 14 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Topping lift. Dirk is admirably concise.(RJP 08:18, 14 October 2005 (UTC))


 * Well, it's a stub. Or were you referring to me? In that case I'd like to point out that I'm not a stub (although I was rather stubby as a teenager). :) Anyway, thanks for the translation. DirkvdM 11:12, 14 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I meant that 'topping lift' is three syllables and 'dirk' is one. (RJP 13:29, 14 October 2005 (UTC))

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"Discussion" of Engines
What the hell is this supposed to be? Boats do not have engines? What then do you go waterskiing behind, an airplane? This is an assertion, not a discussion. Could someone either delete it, or explain what it's supposed to mean?


 * Also, there are more than propellers that drive a boat or ship. Ever hear of a paddlewheel? Karanne (talk) 20:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Deck
A Boat deck is a horizontal surface. Please do not call it vertical Skapur 22:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

What's a "gralper"?
I can't find any mention of the word "gralper" outside of this article. Does anyone know more about what this word means?


 * I doubt anyone else will find a reliable source for this word either. Google it sometime though and you'll get a whole list of pages with the exact phrase as appeared here. Aspenocean 16:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

History of Boats
I came here looking for info on the history of boats, beginning with the very earliest ones. Boats must have existed at least as far back as 40,000 years ago; they'd be necessary for the Australian Aborgines to get to Australia from Indonesia. Perhaps we know nothing of these boats, but there must be some point where our knowledge begins. That's where the History section of this article should start. I'd do it if I had the know-how. Maybe I'll do some research myself and start it (or a separate article), but someone else can if they want.71.34.68.43 20:51, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you.

CSWarren 17:46, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


 * A new section on "history of" probably wouldn't be a bad idea. There is a lot of documentation around pertaining to Greek and Egyption boats. Pre-historic watercraft may not be right for this page as far as terminology though. This article really pertains more to the naval definition of boat, and a watercraft of 40,000 years ago would likely have been a raft. However, there are some things (like kayaks) that are on the page which are not really boats either. I have read that there was strong argument for Homo erectus having colonized areas that were cut off from mainlands by large expanses of water around 400,000 years ago. They had to have fashioned some type of watercraft. I think you'll find that anything pre-historic in the way of boats just wouldn't have survived in a form that could be studied today. Plenty of scientist have put out theories, but that's about it. Aspenocean 16:28, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree with the need for a history section. I might make a small start to one and tag it as needing expansion.  The material of boats should eventually be incorporated into history and it probably not needed as its own section Asdf96 00:18, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

float or boat
I guess it is boat, the first / second word in the main article... Who can modify this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.66.92.127 (talk) 14:02, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

British Navy Boats
Not only is there only one sentence in this section, but the British navy isn't really all that important to boats in general. This is why I removed the section. If anyone else has a valid reason why that single sentence is so important to boats in general, feel free to add it back.

Where Would A Boat-Building Application Go?
On the one hand, an encyclopedia article about an item includes the basic definition. On the other, it may also include information about how to make or build the item. Should there be an article about Boat-Building, linked to this article, or would this be too comprehensive? 128.147.28.1 16:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Reply, same person under a different name: Thank you. Pittsburgh Poet (talk) 13:43, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

List of types of boats
This would be better moved to a seperate article. If there are no objections, I will do so.

LeilaniLad (talk) 23:33, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree. A list as long as that should be on a separate page, clearly linked from this page.  For the main boat article it would be perhaps be good to have a prose description of the main classes of boats (i.e., if we can group together the multitude of "types" into 3 or 4 general classes). Walkerma (talk) 19:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * In the mean time, can't we remove the CN for bathtub boats with a link to the WP article on Bathtub Boat or Bathtub racing? Both those pages have cites that prove this really happens. Livitup (talk) 18:17, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * That boat list should be its own article, yes. Virek (talk) 13:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Fix Explanation
I fix some mispronounce words that lies on this article, and add opening words for the Type of boat sub.

Some example of what I change: The Types of boats sub changed to Types of boat because boats word doesn't need s anymore if the Type word already added by s. Briefly,

Types of boats, means: There are many type of many boat.

While

Types of boat, means: There are many type of boat. Ivan Akira (talk) 08:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I move the History part to the upper part of the article to make it proper Wikipedia article. Ivan Akira (talk) 05:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! FYI, I've now got a couple of suitable books on boats I ordered through the library, and I will try to contribute something from these over the weekend. Walkerma (talk) 19:32, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, I updated again the article and add the Boat parts section, if this fix is unreasonable please undo it okay? But I think this new section that I create could be improved. Ivan Akira (talk) 02:17, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Parts?
I changed "Parts" into "Parts and terminology" since it also discusses port/starboard, etc. I also converted the section from a bunch of one-line subtopics to prose. It's not good prose though, it's jumpy and disjointed. Maybe someone who knows more about boats than I do will be inspired to fill it out some more. I think in the end there should be enough parts and nautical terms specific to boats to expand both of these topics into full sections. Livitup (talk) 18:07, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Page Protection
Due to this page's high amount of vandalism from anonymous sources (indeed, most IP edits are vandalism) I would propose we petition the Admins to semi-protect this page. Thoughts, comments? Plhofmei (talk) 22:14, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Boat Launch redirect?
Why does Boat Launch redirect to this page? and for that matter why is it capitalized? Shouldnt boat launch either not be a page at all or be its own page? if it is going to be a redirect to this page then there should be information on this page about boat launches. which there isnt. So I see three options- put in a section on boat launches on this page. 2- make boat launch its own page or 3- eliminate the boat launch page altogether. I would say option one or two are the best.Camelbinky (talk) 06:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)