Talk:Bob Paris

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YouTube links
This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 05:19, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Bob and Brian
I can't find any references to their being legally married. They live in Canada, is gay marriage legal there? A source to the effect of them being spouses would be great. Paris' official site calls Brian his "partner", not his spouse, so that doesn't help. Thoughts? -Ebyabe (talk) 02:34, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Bob and Brian Marriage
Please see the February 2008 issue of Flex magazine. According to a direct quote from Bob, he and Brian are legally married. Canada (starting with several provinces and then expanding nationally) equalized the marriage laws in 2003. --Flashreflector (talk) 07:10, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

External Links: photo copyrights, and inaccurate stats and info
Some external links have been removed because they contain inaccurate biographical information and/or inaccurate stats about the subject, and also contain photographs that are not in the public domain and have been reproduced in violation of legal copyrights. Just as Wikipedia sites must respect copyright with regard, for example, to YouTube posts, so must it respect the copyrights of photographs.

All external links should also contain only verifiably accurate information about the subject. Flashreflector (talk) 07:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Bodybuilding Competition List
I created an overview of Bob's competitive bodybuilding history. Respectfully, the previous competition list appears to have been copied from one posted on the internet. That list contains numerous errors such as incorrect contests, incorrect placements, omitted contests, etc. Again, respectfully, just because something is circulated on the internet doesn't make it true. Also, the headline on this section was vague and didn't distinguish between amatuer and professional bodybuilding competitions. The new overview presents a more concise and accurate breakdown of the subject's competitive bodybuilding history.Flashreflector (talk)

Non-neutral sources
Citations to reliable, authoritative, and neutral third-party sources are essential. Wikipedia requires them. Two good sets of Wikipedia guidelines that I have found really useful can be found HERE and HERE.

Recent wholesale deletions of copy blocks and reliable sourcing
The subject’s memoir, Gorilla Suit, would appear to qualify as a source for non-controversial biographical material, as it is a “book published by a respected publishing house.” The disqualification for sourcing relates to self-published books or unpublished works on a subject and generally applies to offering unsubstantiated opinions that might cause harm or mislead.

Editors are actually urged to take caution when dealing with material about a “living person.” This current bout of wholesale copy block removal leaps first to the most extremist measure. Suggested sourcing guidelines actually recommend first tagging non-controversial copy with a “citation needed” before removal, allowing other editors sufficient time to source. Flashreflector (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:40, 15 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Dear Flashreflector, I hope you are well. Thanks for improving the page. With respect, an AUTObiography is not a third-party biography. Contrary to what you say about "extreme measures", I just want the page to be accurate and neutral, based on third-party neutral sources. Don't you? Let's be frank. This article was sloppy in terms of the neutrality of its citations. It was sloppy for ages. I encourage you now to look for other sources, because almost the entire article now draws on one source. Regards, George Custer&#39;s Sabre (talk) 05:04, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Possible Plagiarism by Other Websites?
The entire text of this article is identical to the text at the following Website, except for the two sections, “Books Written by Bob Paris” and “Photography Books of Bob Paris":

http://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/bob-paris/

Who is plagiarizing whom? Based on the editor’s careful and attentive maintenance of the page, I’m inclined to believe he created the WP article and the Website merely copied it. On the other hand, I checked several other pages on the same Website and found that their content bore no similarity at all to the corresponding WP entry. I have no way of determining independently who the original author is, but note of this matter should be made here on the talk page. It may also be appropriate to put a warning box on the article itself. Jackftwist (talk) 21:02, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

The site mentioned above (along with several others) copied and pasted from this WP article without citation or credit. This trend is increasingly common across the internet, with sites copying WP articles word-for-word, or with minor edits, and then posting without citation or credit. This WP article is original and has been carefully looked after and contains no plagiarism whatsoever. It is also fully sourced throughout, whereas the copy and paste sites are not. No warning box is needed. Flashreflector (talk) 23:58, 28 November 2013 (UTC)flashreflector

NOTE: The website listed above recently added a source citation back to this WP. Flashreflector (talk) 19:11, 29 November 2013 (UTC)flashreflector