Talk:Bock/Archive 1

can has citations
This article needs to have citations. Seriously....there are none. Who wrote this? How did they know this? :-/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.255.97.221 (talk) 03:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a question for the person who removed the references. . Neil916 (Talk) 06:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

POV statement
"All are good, some are excellent." This POV statement should be removed. -Misha.grey@gmail.com

Other photo
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afbeelding:Bokbier.jpg I'm not sure if it should be used, or if we can link it to the English without taking the trouble to put it on wikicommons. -Ich 22:57, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Bock is a type of German beer. Bottom fermented, it is named for the famous medieval German brewing town of Einbeck. The beer is a heavy bodied lager and is darkened by high-coloured malts. Bock is traditionally brewed in the winter time for drinking during the Spring.

Variants include Maibock (brewed for the month of May), Eisbock (ice bock), Weizenbock (wheat bock), and Doppelbock (double bock). The names of Doppelbock brews commonly end in -ator in honor of the original, Paulaner Salvator.

Many bock beer producers have displayed goats on bottle labels since Bock in German means billy goat. In the local dialect, Einbeck is pronounced similar to "Einbock", which sounds like ein Bock (a goat).

Term needing definition
The opening paragraph says that bock beer is "bottom fermented." That term should be defined - how is it different than other styles of fermenting beer? | Keithlaw 03:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I have linked to the yeast, perhaps not the best place, but will do for now. Justinc 18:11, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Any relevant link is better than no link at all. The BFY article did start to answer my question. Thanks! | Keithlaw 02:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

bocks
Just because bock is bottom fermented it does not mean that it is a lager. Bock is a variety of beer, and in no way related to lager besides its similar fermentation process.
 * By definition, Lager is bottom fermenting beer, so bock is in fact a lager. Check the Lager page for more info--BrokenStoic 21:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Weizenbock really Bock?
Weizenbock is a top-fermented ale. Bock is a bottom-fermented lager. I think weizenbock really doesn't belong in the "bock" category. All it is is a Dunkelweizen on steroids. Not really a bock.
 * I would be in favor of seperating Weizenbock and Eisbock into their own pages. They all share the word "bock" in their name, but other than that there is not much in common and each has their own unique brewing process--BrokenStoic 21:02, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I would move Weizenbock to wheat beer. &mdash; goethean &#2384; 21:31, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

This is not the best idication of a bock. A bock beer should be darker in color at least get someone to change the picture to show a true representation of a bock - sorry if this is the wrong place to put this edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.158.39.7 (talk) 04:57, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Copyright violation
The anonymous additions on 17 August 2005, comprising much of the text of this article, seem to be copied verbatim from |All About Beer magazine. What should be done about this? --158.130.3.32 17:52, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Champions....
"The Bock name is a name that only the champions hold blah blah...." Ok good one mate. I had my first Bock in a German restaurant last Christmas, and I'm sold. But let's reserve comments like these for commercials where they belong eh? --Jquarry 03:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

404 error
http://www.worldclassbeverages.com/PagesAZ/Education/StyleArticlePages/Bocks.htm

Is a dead and should be changed from ..... "Bocks.htm" ---> "bocks.asp"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Betarftv2 (talk • contribs) 22:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

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Number of US examples
The number of examples from the United States is getting out of hand in this article. I'm reluctant to start removing them as I remember what arguments this has started in the past. Anyone have any suggestions as to the nest way to trim and then limit examples in this article? Patto1ro (talk) 09:08, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * As I've suggested elsewhere, remove all examples. Most of the US examples are coming from anonymous, unregistered users. It seems highly likely to me it's the brewers themselves adding their own listing. Mikebe (talk) 10:31, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * As no-one has objected to cleanin g up the examples on this page, I'll go ahead and do it. Patto1ro (talk) 12:17, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Name
Removed this: ''The name ... also means male deer or goat in German; the word is a cognate of the English "buck".''

If the name of the beer derives from that of the town of Einbeck (Einbock) then the fact that "Bock" also means "billy goat" is just a coincidence and irrelevant here. -- Picapica (talk) 16:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with you about the irrelevance of the English, however, on your larger point, are you aware that many German/Austrian brewers use the image of a goat for their bock beer? For example: http://www.seven-eleven.at/uploads/pics/Bockbieranstich.gif or another: http://www.taverntrove.com/beerpics/Pschorr-Brau-Bock-Bier-Labels-Pschorr-Brau_52714-1.jpg
 * For quite a few brewers, the connection with the animal certainly seems stronger than the connection with the city. Mikebe (talk) 10:54, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with Mikebe. While the name of the type of beer originates from the city, it's a play on words that brings us to the goat.  Hence, the image of a goat on the label of many different Bock beers.  So, a mention of how these brewers use this play on words is appropriate to the article. Fish Man (talk) 15:21, 7 May 2009 (UTC)